KITTIWAKE 23 Detailed Review
If you are a boat enthusiast looking to get more information on specs, built, make, etc. of different boats, then here is a complete review of KITTIWAKE 23. Built by Kenner Boat Company and designed by Carl Alberg, the boat was first built in 1972. It has a hull type of Long Keel and LOA is 7.19. Its sail area/displacement ratio 16.56. Its auxiliary power tank, manufactured by undefined, runs on undefined.
KITTIWAKE 23 has retained its value as a result of superior building, a solid reputation, and a devoted owner base. Read on to find out more about KITTIWAKE 23 and decide if it is a fit for your boating needs.
Boat Information
Boat specifications, sail boat calculation, rig and sail specs, contributions, who designed the kittiwake 23.
KITTIWAKE 23 was designed by Carl Alberg.
Who builds KITTIWAKE 23?
KITTIWAKE 23 is built by Kenner Boat Company.
When was KITTIWAKE 23 first built?
KITTIWAKE 23 was first built in 1972.
How long is KITTIWAKE 23?
KITTIWAKE 23 is 5.41 m in length.
What is mast height on KITTIWAKE 23?
KITTIWAKE 23 has a mast height of 7.32 m.
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Hey Folks, I've found for sale a "Kenner Kittiwake 24", with trailer and outboard motor, at what seems like a reasonable price: https://maine.craigslist.org/boa/5765980092.html I tried looking up more information about that design, since the owner/poster didn't provide a lot of details, but Google only ever finds info on a Kittiwake 23 . Since I don't know much about boats (yet), maybe more knowledgable folks can help me out here: Are these the same designs? (I see from Sailboatdata that the K23's LOA is 23.58 feet, but it also says the K23 wasn't commenced until 1972, while the listed boat is 1969.) Does anyone with experience on such a boat have any insights to offer as to its general quality/performance/enjoyment fact? What would be the thoughts on such a boat as a daysailer / weekender with a couple of short overnight trips each year? - Walker
The Kenner Kittiwake was an adaptation of the South Coast 23, a Carl Alberg design from the mid-1960's. Sailboat data has a good write up on this KITTIWAKE 23 sailboat specifications and details on sailboatdata.com . The biggest difference between the Kenner Kittiwake and the South Coast was that the Kittiwake had a doghouse (a raised portion of the cabin top) added and a miniaturized interior plan that was meant to sleep 4, but 4 very small people. It looked great in pictures, until you saw it in real life. Things like a miniature galley sink only work for miniature pots and pans making dinner for people with miniature appetites. But cramped accommodations aside, these were nice boats for their day. I normally recommend something more responsive for a first boat, but the Kittiwake should seem familiar if you have been sailing Ensigns. I thought that the Kittiwake seemed to handle light air, and handle a chop slightly better than the Ensign, but those are many decades old recollections and may not be accurate. My sense is that the first Kittiwakes appeared around 1969 or so, around the time that I moved to Florida, I saw one in New York. I don't recall hearing the Kenner name associated with the name Kittiwake until slightly later which may be the 1972 reference you are seeing. Jeff
how did ur launch go? I'm going to look at one soon
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Kittiwake 23
The kittiwake 23 is a 23.58ft masthead sloop designed by carl alberg and built in fiberglass by kenner boat company between 1972 and 1978..
The Kittiwake 23 is a moderate weight sailboat which is a reasonably good performer. It is very stable / stiff and has a good righting capability if capsized. It is best suited as a coastal cruiser.
Kittiwake 23 for sale elsewhere on the web:
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Model | Kittiwake 23 | ||
Length | 23.58 ft | ||
Beam | 7.42 ft | ||
Draft | 2.83 ft | ||
Country | United states (North America) | ||
Estimated price | $ 0 | ?? |
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Sail area / displ. | 16.56 | ||
Ballast / displ. | 40.54 % | ||
Displ. / length | 295.36 | ||
Comfort ratio | 20.31 | ||
Capsize | 1.92 |
Hull type | Monohull long keel | ||
Construction | Fiberglass | ||
Waterline length | 17.75 ft | ||
Maximum draft | 2.83 ft | ||
Displacement | 3700 lbs | ||
Ballast | 1500 lbs | ||
Hull speed | 5.65 knots |
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Rigging | Masthead Sloop | ||
Sail area (100%) | 247 sq.ft | ||
Air draft | 0 ft | ?? | |
Sail area fore | 121 sq.ft | ||
Sail area main | 126 sq.ft | ||
I | 27.50 ft | ||
J | 8.80 ft | ||
P | 24 ft | ||
E | 10.50 ft |
Nb engines | 1 | ||
Total power | 0 HP | ||
Fuel capacity | 0 gals |
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Water capacity | 0 gals | ||
Headroom | 0 ft | ||
Nb of cabins | 0 | ||
Nb of berths | 0 | ||
Nb heads | 0 |
Builder data
Builder | Kenner Boat Company | ||
Designer | Carl Alberg | ||
First built | 1972 | ||
Last built | 1978 | ||
Number built | 0 | ?? |
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Gusto, a 1967 Kenner Kittiwake 23 for sale!
Email for additional information: [email protected]
Price: CDN$2,500 SOLD
Last updated: 10:20pm, august 5, 2014. more photos coming soon, general specifications:.
- LOA: 23’ 6” (7.77 m)
- LWL: 17’ 8” (6.40 m)
- Beam: 7’ 6” (2.29 m)
- Draft: 2’ 10” (1.22 m)
- Displacement: 3700 lbs. (1678 kg.)
- Ballast: 1500 lbs. (680 kg.)
- Sail area: 247 sq. ft. (22.95 m²)
Construction
- Uncored fiberglass hull.
- Cored fiberglass deck
- Lead ballast keel
- Aluminum spars
The Kittiwake 23 is a full-keel sailing sloop designed by Carl Alberg and built by the Kenner Boat Company of Knoxville, Arkansas. The is similar to the much-loved Alberg 22 built near Toronto, but much bigger. Those 18 inches really make a difference! She sleeps four down below, and features a spacious cockpit for day sailing. We have actually slept in the cockpit on pleasant evenings a number of times.
Gusto at PEYC in Picton, Summer 2013.
We bought this sailboat almost two years ago as an experiment to see if we would enjoy sailing. When we bought her in Ottawa in 2012, she had been out of the water for several years. Her sails had barely ever been used since they were purchased in 2007! And she was sitting on a virtually brand new cradle. She had (and still has) an excellent long-shaft 5hp 2-stroke Mariner outboard that sits in a motor well behind the cockpit and hadn't seen much use.
Gusto right before launch into the Ottawa river, summer 2013. Note the motor well.
Last summer we outtfitted her and cruised her for two weeks from Ottawa to Toronto via the Rideau Canal and Lake Ontario. The boat performed excellently in a variety of conditions, and posted some surprising distances (Trenton to Toronto in one day!) for such a small pocket cruiser. In fact, we beat a 43’ trawler through the canal! We have enjoyed it far beyond our expectations, but have outgrown our beloved Kittiwake and moved up to a larger boat. That's why we have reluctantly decided to sell her.
Gusto on the Rideau Canal with her mast down, summer 2013.
We’ve done a lot of work to the boat in the two years we’ve owned her and taken care of most of the problems we’ve encountered, and while we’ve decided to part with her for what we paid (CDN$2500), we are what are known as ‘ motivated sellers ’. If you’re interested in getting into a classic pocket yacht designed by one of the 20th century’s foremost designers, this is a great opportunity for you.
V-berth on Gusto. Surprisingly comfortable and roomy for a 23 foot boat!.
We don’t want to get into a long, drawn-out selling process. We’re moving up to a larger boat because our family has grown and we want more room for active young kids. This is a great pocket-yacht, strong and capable. We've always felt good daysailing her around Toronto and the trip home from Ottawa was a comfortable and fun adventure. If you think you might be interested in this boat, get in touch. Let's see what we can work out.
Two aft quarterberths on Gusto, and electrical panel.
Equipment List:
- 135% Genoa (2007)
- 100% working jib (2007)
- Fully battened mainsail (2007, new battens 2013)
- New running rigging (2007)
- 5hp 2-stroke long-shaft Mariner serviced for the last two years by Klaus Marine in Toronto
- 2 fuel tanks (3 and 6 gallons)
- Depth sounder
- Automatic electric bilge pump (2013)
- Manual bilge pump
- 50 feet anchor rode (2013)
- Danforth anchor
- Porta-pottie (2013, never used)
- 2 deep-cycle batteries (one, 100aH new in 2013)
- 50' shore power cable (2013)
- Automotive-type portable battery charger
- Coast-guard required flares (new 2013)
- Folding cradle by the Marine Cradle Shop (new 2007)
- V-berth cushions
- Quarterberth cushions
- Single burner butane cooker (new, 2013)
- New cockpit drain hoses and thru-hulls (2013)
- New LED navigation lights bow and stern (2013)
- New rope boarding ladder (2013)
- Exterior woodwork redone (2013)
- Windex mast-head wind direction indicator (2014)
- Construction manual for the boat
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23' kenner kittiwake daysailers.
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The Kittiwake, derived from the earlier South Coast 23, was built by Kenner Boat Co. for South Coast Sea Craft. In about 1965, South Coast took the molds and moved to a different location. A hull was left behind which Kenner cut up, enlarged by a few inches, and re-faired to make molds for the Kittiwake. Sometime around 1970, the factory was sold to a conglomerate named AJ Industries which continued to produce Kittiwakes under the Kenner name.
In 1973, Ray Greene & Co. of Toledo, bought the molds and built an unknown number of Kittiwakes until it ceased operation. Later, River City Sailcraft obtained one or more molds and built an unknown number of Kittiwakes. In 1978 the plant reportedly burned, and the molds were destroyed.
This Kenner Kittiwake is in very good condition and presents herself well. Jubilee has been well maintained and has new sails and a new outboard. See what all the excitement is about!
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Hull color - blue
Deck color - white
Keel - lead
Tiller Cover
Fenders - 2
Stern Ladder
Winches - 2
Curtains - new
Head type - Porta Potty
Opening Ports - Bow Hatch
Screens - Companionway
Battery - 1 new
Battery Charger
Shorepower 110V - no cord
Roller Furling - Seafurl new
Halyards led aft - new
Forestay & Backstay - new
Anchor Rode
Bilge Pump - manual
Fire Extinguisher
Manual bilge pump
Main - new 2015
- Bluffton Bay
Main Cover - new 2015
- Sunbrella, grey
- Whitehall Canvas
Jib - age not known
Genoa - 120%, new 2015
Ballooner - age not known
- multi-colored
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hello all I am looking for anyone who has owned, owns, or has experience with a kittiwake sailboat... a friend pointed me onto this really great deal.... I am buying a kittiwake sailboat.... very few of these boats were ever made, so I am trying to find someone who can give me information on them... I did find out they were produced in Kentucky for about 5 years... I know carl alberg designed them... I know they are full keel boats like the cape dory... I am looking for information on sailing characturistics for this boat... thanks sincerely Jess
You might enjoy reading this article from a back issue of Good Old Boat about the Kittiwake. http://www.goodoldboat.com/pdfs/apr09_advnl.pdf
stevec22206
The guy that runs our marina has a 24', don't know the year but I've been out on it and it is a solid boat. It handled some stiff wind and chop really well. Sorry I can't be more specific about it's true nature but I was extremely impressed with its character. It appears to be a very quick boat as we covered some ground in a short period of time. Best part is it came with a trailer and can go anywhere. Steve
I believe that the Southcoast 23 has the same hull as the Kittiwake. My brother had a Southcoast 23 and I have sailed with him. I'll ask him to post some information. I didn't think that it was a particularly fast boat with a PHRF rating at about 270. Considering the waterline length it was respectable for the times. There were two characteristics that stick in my head. Finding an outboard motor that would fit in the well and not hit the rudder was a challenge. He must have tried at least 3 motors before he found one that fit. There was a lot of weather helm because of the design of the attached rudder. Unlike most modern day rudders which are a balanced spade design, the rudders on these boats are not balanced and by design will have a heavy feel to the helm. I love the classic lines of these Alberg designed boat. Very easy on the eyes! Check out information on the old Southcoast 23's too. (Not the newer ones which are a completely different design)
hello all thanks for the replies... I made a deal with the owner of the kittiwake 24 sailboat.... I pick it up next week while I am on vacation... it does have those wine glass lines carl alberg is famous for.... here are some pictures of the boat... sincerely Jess
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hello all I got the kittiwake 24... I pick it up next week while I am on vacation... I am excited about it... while doing some research on the boat, I found some pictures of a subtender/rescue ship of the US Navy (USS Kittiwake)... it was decomishioned and then sunk in the caymens to be part of a dive park... I was telling my friend about it, and he suggested, later sometime I should take my boat and sail to the caymens and go see the dive park... he laughed when he said it... then commented that a kittiwake visiting the kittiwake... he got a good laugh out of it, but I thought it is a good idea... sincerely Jess
Merlin Clark
Congrats Jess! Very cool traditional boat and dont worry about that rudder design, it's been around a lot longer than fiberglass anf works well. Unlike many, that is a boat that can be balanced.
hello all thank you for all the information about the kittiwake sailboat... I found out it is hull #214, originally built by the Kenner Boat Company... it is larger than the south coast 23 with a different layout inside... this kittiwake sailboat is the only model of sailboat ever produced by the Kenner Boat Company after the split from the south coast boat company... the Kenner Boat Company only produced 268 of this model of sailboat... then it was taken over by the Ray Greene Sailboat Company, who only produced 60 .... then it was bought out by the River City Sailcraft company, who only produced 69 of them... I know I will enjoy sailing my new sailboat... I am not looking to race her in all the races... I am more into sailing her for the pleasure of it, and spending time out on the water with my wife... as my son puts is, I have a camper on the water, and front row seats to fishing or swimming anytime I want it... my favorite things are camping, sailing, fishing, swimming... and I can do all with this kittiwake sailboat... sincerely Jess
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The KITTIWAKE derived from the earlier SOUTH COAST 23, built by Kenner Boat Co for South Coast Sea Craft. In about 1965 South Coast took the molds and moved to a different location. A hull that was left behind was used to create a new mold, enlarged by a few inches, and re-faired to make the KITTIWAKE. Sometime around 1970 the factory was sold ...
The Kittiwake 23, also called the Kittiwake 24 and the Kenner Kittiwake, is an American trailerable sailboat that was designed by Carl Alberg as a cruiser and first built in 1966. It is named for the species of gull.. The boat is a development of the Alberg-designed South Coast 23, with a modified, stepped cabin top shape.
Kittiwake 23 is a classic monohull sailboat with a long keel and a sloop rig, designed by Carl Alberg and built by different companies between 1972 and 1978. Learn about its dimensions, performance, accommodations, and history on this web page.
1 of 1. If you are a boat enthusiast looking to get more information on specs, built, make, etc. of different boats, then here is a complete review of KITTIWAKE 23. Built by Kenner Boat Company and designed by Carl Alberg, the boat was first built in 1972. It has a hull type of Long Keel and LOA is 7.19. Its sail area/displacement ratio 16.56.
The Kenner Kittiwake was an adaptation of the South Coast 23, a Carl Alberg design from the mid-1960's. Sailboat data has a good write up on this KITTIWAKE 23 sailboat specifications and details on sailboatdata.com. The biggest difference between the Kenner Kittiwake and the South Coast was that the Kittiwake had a doghouse (a raised portion of the cabin top) added and a miniaturized interior ...
Carl Alberg, the genius behind the Sea Sprite, Cape Dory, and the Kittiwake. In 1990, I purchased a 1969 Kittiwake 23, rebuilt her to pristine condition, and sailed her for several years. As one can imagine, the waters of the Mississippi Sound offer different wind and sea challenges, all of which the Kittiwake handled effortlessly.
The Kittiwake 23 is a 23.58ft masthead sloop designed by Carl Alberg and built in fiberglass by Kenner Boat Company between 1972 and 1978. The Kittiwake 23 is a moderate weight sailboat which is a reasonably good performer. It is very stable / stiff and has a good righting capability if capsized. It is best suited as a coastal cruiser.
The Kittiwake 23 is a full-keel sailing sloop designed by Carl Alberg and built by the Kenner Boat Company of Knoxville, Arkansas. The is similar to the much-loved Alberg 22 built near Toronto, but much bigger. Those 18 inches really make a difference! She sleeps four down below, and features a spacious cockpit for day sailing.
The Kittiwake, designed by Carl Alberg and derived from the earlier South Coast 23, was built by Kenner Boat Co. for South Coast Sea Craft. In about 1965, South Coast took the molds and moved to a different location. A hull was left behind which Kenner cut, enlarged by a few inches, and re-faired to make molds for the Kittiwake. ...
The Kittiwake, derived from the earlier South Coast 23, was built by Kenner Boat Co. for South Coast Sea Craft. In about 1965, South Coast took the molds and moved to a different location. A hull was left behind which Kenner cut up, enlarged by a few inches, and re-faired to make molds for the Kittiwake. Sometime around 1970, the factory was ...
6. Oklahoma. Jul 19, 2022. #1. Hello all, This weekend I bought a 1968 kittiwake 23. Sails are in good condition with two sets of each. Trailer is new (2009) and custom built. Hull and bottom are sound with no soft spots or delamination. Standing rigging is sound and relatively new.
515. Kittiwake 23, Irwin 43 .. Indianapolis / indianatown, fl. Oct 14, 2013. #1. hello all. I am looking for anyone who has owned, owns, or has experience with a kittiwake sailboat... a friend pointed me onto this really great deal.... I am buying a kittiwake sailboat.... very few of these boats were ever made, so I am trying to find someone ...
Go to Sailing Texas classifieds for current sailboats for sale Kittiwake 23, 1968 sailboat for sale For sale for $1,135 is Kittiwake 23 sailboat made in 1968 from Kenner Boats and it is like a South Coast 23 or Alberg 22 or sorta like a Cape Dory. It is 23.6 feet long, 2.83 feet deep, 7.5 feet wide, and 3700 pounds in weight. It has full keel, and has all sails including a Jib Roller Furler ...
1969 Kittiwake 23 Hull #176. Classic Alberg-Designed Full-keeler. This Kittiwake has been lovingly upgraded over the last 3 years and is one of the prettiest boats on the lake or bay. Improvements completed in 2008 have not seen the water yet. The heavy-duty trailer will save you slip fees and make bottom painting, storage, and maintenance a ...
Kittiwake 23, 1973. This Alberg-designed beauty features a classic wineglass-shaped transom free from outboard bracket or other visual clutter due to the ingenious thru-hull outboard mounted in the stern "storage compartment." She was built by Ray Greene Boat Builders and has been well-kept.
kittiwake preowned sailboats for sale by owner. kittiwake used sailboats for sale by owner. Home. Register & Post. View All Sailboats. Search. Avoid Fraud. ... 23' WD Schock Santana 23R Mt Dora, Florida Asking $12,500. 33' Allied Luders Pasadena, Maryland Asking $9,500. 50' Columbia Columbia 50 Tacoma, Washington
Kittiwake 23, 1978, Patchogue, New York, $7,500, Price reduced 2/29/12 to $6,000, SOLD 3/3/12. This River City built Kittiwake is a great boat for any sailor who appreciates traditional design, quality construction, and understands the expense and effort involved in rebuilding and upgrading this type of sailboat to better than new condition.
Go to Sailing Texas classifieds for current sailboats for sale Kenner Kittiwake 23, 1972 sailboat for sale Cark Alberg design 23.5 length 7.5 beam 3' draft 1500 Pounds Lead ballast. This is a 1972 Kenner Kittiwake 23 and trailer both in great shape with many upgrades including all new wiring, paint, Tohatsu 6 hp outboard, boom topping lift, seat and bunk cushions.
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Kittiwake 23, 1964, Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, $3,500, Back on market Price reduced 2/28/12, $550, SOLD 3/6/12 ... Contact: Free Sailboat Ad: Go to Sailing Texas classifieds for current sailboats for sale . Kittiwake 23, 1964 Kenner model hull # 4 Only about 286 registered now Very cool boat Can be sailed as is there is no work on it necessary
Kittiwake 23 Sailboat Registry. kittiwake23registry.com Kittiwake 23 Owners. Source: sailboatdata.com / CC BY. Suggest Improvements 1 Sailboat Sailboat. Kittiwake 23.