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CT-41 is a 41 ′ 0 ″ / 12.5 m monohull sailboat designed by William Garden and built by Ta Chiao starting in 1972.

Rig and Sails

Auxilary power, accomodations, calculations.

The theoretical maximum speed that a displacement hull can move efficiently through the water is determined by it's waterline length and displacement. It may be unable to reach this speed if the boat is underpowered or heavily loaded, though it may exceed this speed given enough power. Read more.

Classic hull speed formula:

Hull Speed = 1.34 x √LWL

Max Speed/Length ratio = 8.26 ÷ Displacement/Length ratio .311 Hull Speed = Max Speed/Length ratio x √LWL

Sail Area / Displacement Ratio

A measure of the power of the sails relative to the weight of the boat. The higher the number, the higher the performance, but the harder the boat will be to handle. This ratio is a "non-dimensional" value that facilitates comparisons between boats of different types and sizes. Read more.

SA/D = SA ÷ (D ÷ 64) 2/3

• SA : Sail area in square feet, derived by adding the mainsail area to 100% of the foretriangle area (the lateral area above the deck between the mast and the forestay).
• D : Displacement in pounds.

Ballast / Displacement Ratio

A measure of the stability of a boat's hull that suggests how well a monohull will stand up to its sails. The ballast displacement ratio indicates how much of the weight of a boat is placed for maximum stability against capsizing and is an indicator of stiffness and resistance to capsize.

Ballast / Displacement * 100

Displacement / Length Ratio

A measure of the weight of the boat relative to it's length at the waterline. The higher a boat’s D/L ratio, the more easily it will carry a load and the more comfortable its motion will be. The lower a boat's ratio is, the less power it takes to drive the boat to its nominal hull speed or beyond. Read more.

D/L = (D ÷ 2240) ÷ (0.01 x LWL)³

• D: Displacement of the boat in pounds.
• LWL: Waterline length in feet

Comfort Ratio

This ratio assess how quickly and abruptly a boat’s hull reacts to waves in a significant seaway, these being the elements of a boat’s motion most likely to cause seasickness. Read more.

Comfort ratio = D ÷ (.65 x (.7 LWL + .3 LOA) x Beam 1.33 )

• D: Displacement of the boat in pounds
• LOA: Length overall in feet
• Beam: Width of boat at the widest point in feet

Capsize Screening Formula

This formula attempts to indicate whether a given boat might be too wide and light to readily right itself after being overturned in extreme conditions. Read more.

CSV = Beam ÷ ³√(D / 64)

Originally available in 4 versions: Standard (shown here) Center Cockpit Pilot house Pilot house/w center cockpit Similar to the SEA WOLF 40 and YANKEE CLIPPER 41, ATLANTIC CLIPPER 41. Literature lists William Garden as designer but this is disputed.

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Review of CT 41

Basic specs..

The hull is made of fibreglass. Generally, a hull made of fibreglass requires only a minimum of maintenance during the sailing season.

The boat is equipped with 7 berths.

The CT 41 has been built with different keel alternatives.

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The boat can only enter major marinas as the draft is about 1.82 - 1.92 meter (5.97 - 6.27 ft) dependent on the load. See immersion rate below.

The CT 41 is equipped with a long keel. A full keel provide a better directional stability than a similar boat with a fin keel; on the other hand, better directional stability means also that the boat is more difficult to handle in a harbour with less space.

CT 41 can only enter major marinas as the draft is about 1.83 - 1.93 meter (6.00 - 6.30 ft) dependent on the load. See immersion rate below.

The boat is typically equipped with an inboard diesel engine at 48 hp (35 kW).

The transmission is a shaft drive. A shaft drive will in the long run require less maintenance than other types of drive e.g. a sail drive.

Sailing characteristics

This section covers widely used rules of thumb to describe the sailing characteristics. Please note that even though the calculations are correct, the interpretation of the results might not be valid for extreme boats.

What is Capsize Screening Formula (CSF)?

The capsize screening value for CT 41 is 1.59, indicating that this boat could - if evaluated by this formula alone - be accepted to participate in ocean races.

The immersion rate is defined as the weight required to sink the boat a certain level. The immersion rate for CT 41 is about 304 kg/cm, alternatively 1705 lbs/inch. Meaning: if you load 304 kg cargo on the boat then it will sink 1 cm. Alternatively, if you load 1705 lbs cargo on the boat it will sink 1 inch.

Sailing statistics

This section is statistical comparison with similar boats of the same category. The basis of the following statistical computations is our unique database with more than 26,000 different boat types and 350,000 data points.

What is L/B (Length Beam Ratio)?

What is SA/D (Sail Area Displacement ratio)?

Maintenance

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If you need to renew parts of your running rig and is not quite sure of the dimensions, you may find the estimates computed below useful.

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The Ct 41 is a 41.0ft masthead ketch designed by William Garden and built in fiberglass by Ta Chiao (TAIWAN) since 1972.

It accomodates 6 people in 2 cabins plus salon..

The Ct 41 is a heavy sailboat which is under powered. It is reasonably stable / stiff and has an excellent righting capability if capsized. It is best suited as a heavy bluewater cruising boat. The fuel capacity is good. There is a good water supply range.

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Have you dreamed of sailing off to exotic places on a vessel that would make you proud? "Spirit Healer" is just that vessel!

She is an extremely well-maintained William Garden designed CT 41. She's a full-keeled cutter-rigged ketch, with wooden spars (obsessively maintained), BRAND NEW tanbark sails, new wiring, etc. Her owner has lovingly restored her and addressed any issues she had prior to her coming into his life. Here's why she's amazing:

• Brand new tanbark sails
• Spars just pulled, sounded, treated and varnished (no rot anywhere!)
• Teak decks re-bunged and maintained
• Beautiful woodwork and DRY interior! No leaks!
• Custom davits
• Solar panels
• Brand new wiring
• Raymarine C70 integrated navigation system
• Furuno Radar 1715 Model
• Set up for both stern and bow anchoring
• Rare cutter-rigged ketch
• Beautiful woodwork inside and out
• Engine maintained regularly
• Standing and running rigging new
• U-shaped galley for cooking at sea
• Roomy quarterberth
• Freedom HF1800 inverter
• Xantrax LinkLITE battery monitor
• Raymarine ST7002 autopilot with remote
• Icom IC M422 VHF
• Frigoboat 12v refrigeration
• Force 10 gimbaled stove and oven
• Handheld backup Garmin GPS 76
• Raynav 550 Loran C (for those places where Loran is still used!)
• Digital depth sounder and alarm
• ACR Aqualink Personal Locator Beacon
• New batteries
• Water heater
• Separate stall shower
• Classic diesel stove for cool climates
• Original Perkins engine has been well-maintained and lightly used. New alternator. Great access.
• All steel tanks have been removed and cleaned and polished and refinished with airplane-grade paint as needed
• So much storage!
• Manuals for everything

She was very lightly damaged in Hurricane Matthew, which is why the price is so competitive. Pease see the photo. The damage is purely cosmetic, in the gelcoat, and part of the teak rail was knocked loose. She rubbed against her dock--there was no further damage and is NO hidden damage. This boat is solid. The repair would be easy to do and would not be costly.

I would love to take you to see her. Call me! "Spirit Healer" is what dreams are made of...at a great  and NEGOTIABLE price!

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The craftsmanship on these boats is what set them aside--and the quality of maintenance on this particular one is what sets her aside even more. From the moment you enter the cabin, you are greeted by old-style comfort. The rich teak and mahogany details transport you back to a time when pleasureboats were built like ships. She has a spacious U-shaped galley, with tons of storage, to port, and the nav station and quarterberth are to starboard. There is a comfortable dinette and a settee with a beautiful diesel marine heater, 

The head features a separate stall shower, which is a huge plus and a rare find on boats this size. The space in the bow is built into a storage/workshop space, and has a lot of room and potential to be used as a small cabin, storage, or workbench space. The owner's berth is across from the head.

You have to go aboard this boat to appreciate the beauty! Call me! 305-807-4096

Brand new tanbark sails Spars just pulled, sounded, treated and varnished (no rot anywhere!) Teak decks re-bunged and maintained Beautiful woodwork and DRY interior! No leaks! Custom davits Solar panels Brand new wiring Raymarine C70 integrated navigation system Furuno Radar 1715 Model Set up for both stern and bow anchoring Rare cutter-rigged ketch Beautiful woodwork inside and out Engine maintained regularly Standing and running rigging new U-shaped galley for cooking at sea Roomy quarterberth Freedom HF1800 inverter Xantrax LinkLITE battery monitor Raymarine ST7002 autopilot with remote Icom IC M422 VHF Frigoboat 12v refrigeration Force 10 gimbaled stove and oven Handheld backup Garmin GPS 76 Raynav 550 Loran C (for those places where Loran is still used!) Digital depth sounder and alarm ACR Aqualink Personal Locator Beacon New batteries Water heater Separate stall shower Classic diesel stove for cool climates Original Perkins engine has been well-maintained and lightly used. New alternator. Great access. All steel tanks have been removed and cleaned and polished and refinished with airplane-grade paint as needed So much storage! Manuals for everything

This boat has a very small amount of cosmetic damage to her gelcoat from rubbing against the dock during Hurricane Matthew. You can see its full extent in the final photo. The owner planned to fix this but ran out of time. This work that could be easily done (and she's in a DIY yard!) by the buyer and the owner is willing to negotiate the price accordingly. There is NOTHING structurally wrong with this boat, and she's in amazing condition other than this little scratch in her side!

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Thread starter Prestonrockstar Start date Apr 22, 2020 Brand-Specific Forums Prestonrockstar Hi everyone, I currently sail an Ericson 27 and am looking at upgrading to my endgame boat. Under a tight budget, I'm looking at a C&C 41 1984. I've been reading some mixed reviews from other than C&C owners about whether its really a blue water cruiser or not. While I am a long way from crossing an ocean, I'm just curious, could this boat be a competent ocean crosser? I know anything can float across an ocean with the right people handling it, but some are just made better for it and make it easier. In the next 10 years, I would likely switch to a boat a bit more live aboard layed out, but for now the C&C has the price that's right with a good amount of space. If any owners would be willing to toss their experiences, confidences, or lack thereof regarding ocean crossing a 41, I sure would love to hear it before I buy it! Thanks, Preston   the boat was designed for C&C as a pure IOR racer in the early 80's. now you can answer your own question. you are the 'rockstar', Preston, put your full rockstar racing crew on it and have a great crossing. it's design is at the totally opposite end of the spectrum from say 'shorthanded cruiser' sailing. IOR boats were known to be quite squirrely downwind, narrow on the ends and wide in the middle. comfort was not part of the design. take lots of pictures and post them here. we like pictures here on SBO.   kappykaplan jon hansen said: SPO Click to expand I'm not a racer. Which is why I'm not well versed in IOR boats. Spending days and days researching online slowly finding good tid bits. I will likely only use this boat for crusing the Puget Sound, San Juan's, BC, and Alaska, with my kids. All coastal stuff and inland waters for the majority of it, and essentially single handed. When you say "quite squirly downwind", are we talking you just have to keep your hand on it, keep your eye on it, constantly making those little adjustments..or are we talking suit up, strap in, and sh** your pants when it suddenly jibes without warning type of squirely?   in a blow, downwind they are extremely demanding. the second of your choices   they are nice boats. designed to win races. with a full race crew aboard.   If I were looking for a Bluewater boat in the age and size that you cite, I'd be looking for an 1986 Island Packet 38.   IOR boats were designed to beat the IOR handicap rule. fast for their rating. chubby boats were given a break, so they made them chubby. they have that weird bustle at the waterline in the stern to beat the rated waterline measurement. they have huge rudders to try and control them off the wind. the have narrow mains with huge jibs with the mast placed farther aft. none of these things say "comfort", none of these things say "easy to handle". fun boats to sail in lighter air and/or a race crew aboard. back in the 80's my friends loved racing their C&Cs. and they won.   keep small jibs up front and she'll be fine. that vessel can do what you want. of course. they were nice boats. they were designed as pure racers. everything is give and take. my boat is very easy to sail and is very comfortable and safe and SLOW by todays standards. it has long overhangs with lots of extra buoyancy but that extra overhang is known to be grabbed by a following wave and thrown into a broach when sailing dead down wind. however in 46 years with the boat i have never broached it. it's designed as a coastal cruiser not a trade wind runner. you asked about crossing oceans Preston in the OP., leapfrogging the coast from your home is a different set of priorities.   DayDreamer41 We have one that docks next to us, they race and we race, we go out with 2, 3 or 4 crew, they go out with at least 6 better with 8. Is it fast sure is, the only time we see them is at the line. I know the C&C's had wet core syndrome so if you go that direction make sure you have it review very closely. She has beautiful lines as well, but blue cruiser I wouldn't put that high on my list.   If you are interested I have a dock neighbor who is selling his Passport 40 1987 which has been meticulously kept, this is (2) owner boat is absolutely beautiful, never has seen salt water, the owner spends more time polishing than sailing. It is currently out of the water, I believe that his wife took ill causing the need to sell, a truly unfortunate thing. If you are interested I can send you the link to the ad, it is priced to sell at 129K   Sailfanatic The right first step in boat buying is to buy a boat that the designer designed for the purpose that you intend to use it for. The right second step is to buy a boat whose PO has equipped and maintained it for the same purpose you plan to use it for. The C&C 41 may be called a racer/cruiser but it was designed to race. so few of its parameters support use as a cruising boat. No tankage, big jibs, hard to handle, little storage, etc. open cockpits with destroyer wheel. Simply a dead end as a cruising boat, akin to asking "I can get a used NASCAR vehicle cheap, can I use it as a daily driver?".. You would be going in a completely different and correct direction if you were to consider the C&C Landfall series, where the designer built into the boat the characteristics to make a competent cruising boat.   Thank you! Nothing I found online in my research was clear enough. Lot's of people happy with their C&C 41's using as cruisers. None of them talked about handling or anything. (maybe they motor everywhere). My hopes of having found a cheap cruiser have been dashed! But that's a good thing! I didn't know anything about IOR until now.   HI, looking for a C&C 41 that will take you around the world?? I'll tell you where you can find one. There is an older version for sale in Canada on Yachtworld. Here is a picture of that same boat sailing in conditions that you will hopefully never encounter! I have no connection to the boat - nothing in this for me. It has a new repower, and the price will save you a lot of $$$'s for the things you need to add.   Attachments Jim Maddrey Prestonrockstar said: Thank you! Nothing I found online in my research was clear enough. Lot's of people happy with their C&C 41's using as cruisers. None of them talked about handling or anything. (maybe they motor everywhere). My hopes of having found a cheap cruiser have been dashed! But that's a good thing! I didn't know anything about IOR until now. Click to expand Kind of an old thread, but I'll put my two cents in. The OP sounds like me. He wants a nice boat, but he doesn't want to spend every last cent on it. Someone mentioned an Island Packet. I assume they missed the tight budget part. Those old C&Cs are fantastic boats, but they are race horses, which would explain why they can be had cheap. Hardcore racers with deep pockets will be looking at the newer stuff. I think he should look at older Pearsons and Hunters. They can be cheap, especially the Hunters and they are great cruisers. I looked at and damn near bought an '88 Hunter Legend 35. Looked to be in pretty good shape and I could have had it for 10 grand. Is it as good a boat as that C&C 41? No, but I would guess that it has way more room inside than the C&C, despite being 6 ft shorter. And with a little upgrading, I think it would be just fine wandering off shore if he wanted.   This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies. Accept Learn more… CT-41 Detailed Review If you are a boat enthusiast looking to get more information on specs, built, make, etc. of different boats, then here is a complete review of CT-41. Built by Ta Chiao (TAIWAN) and designed by William Garden, the boat was first built in 1972. It has a hull type of Long Keel and LOA is 12.5. Its sail area/displacement ratio 13.97. Its auxiliary power tank, manufactured by 454 L, runs on undefined. CT-41 has retained its value as a result of superior building, a solid reputation, and a devoted owner base. Read on to find out more about CT-41 and decide if it is a fit for your boating needs. Boat Information Boat specifications, sail boat calculation, rig and sail specs, auxillary power tank, accomodations, contributions, who designed the ct-41. CT-41 was designed by William Garden. Who builds CT-41? CT-41 is built by Ta Chiao (TAIWAN). When was CT-41 first built? CT-41 was first built in 1972. How long is CT-41? CT-41 is 9.91 m in length. What is mast height on CT-41? CT-41 has a mast height of 12.89 m. Member Boats at HarborMoor Visit our Popular Forums Monohull Sailboats Multihull Sailboats Powered Boats General Sailing Antares Yachts Fountaine Pajot Lagoon Catamarans Cruising Business Boat Classifieds General Classifieds Crew Positions Commercial Posts Vendor Spotlight Life Aboard a Boat Provisioning: Food & Drink Families, Kids, & Pets Afloat Recreation, Entertainment, & Fun Boat Ownership & Making a Living Liveaboard's Forum Seamanship, Navigation & Boat Handling Seamanship & Boat Handling Training, Licensing, & Certification Health, Safety, & Related Gear Rules of the Road, Regulations, & Red Tape Engineering & Systems Const. / Maint. / Refit Product / Service Reviews Electronics: Comms / AV Electrical: Batts / Gen / Solar Lithium Power Systems Engines & Propulsion Propellers & Drive Systems Plumbing / Fixtures Deck Hdw: Rigging / Sails Aux. 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Swan 41 vs CT 38 Add to quote Hi, I'm strongly considering: 1974 Swan 41: I'm unable to post links here, but it's listed at oceanicyachts . com 1982 CT 38: I'm unable to post links here, but its' posted at faralloneyachts . com Can anyone weigh in on: 1) the relative cost to maintain for these two boats? I understand it varies tremendously boat to boat, but is there any reason to believe that if these two boats were in similar condition today, one would be more expensive to maintain than the other? 2) relative blue ocean worthiness?   Interesting. Remember i've not seen either in the plastic. For cruising purposes I'd take the CT but teak deck ? That said .... teak deck on a boat that old freaks me somewhat and then the Swan is eight years older. By the look of it the CT has a much nicer interior for cruising/liveaboard. Personally I do not like the Swan companionway arrangement. Virtually impossible to fit a worthwhile dodger and while that design has its good points ease of access is not one of them. Cost to maintain .... horses for courses .... presumably if you want to keep her original the Swan would be the more expensive. Offshore ..... six of one half a dozen of the other but I'd think the CT would be the nicer boat to sail short handed. I'm sure they are both quite capable. Warwick is/was a fine designer.   FWIW the 41 was one of the principal boats that established the Nautor Swan label as being "The Best". The CT38 was produced around the time that Ta Chiao was improving their rep from being a builder of "Leaky Teakies". Assuming the teak decks are in comparable condition, I'd take the Swan, no contest. The state of the decks could be a deal breaker though - if they are shot it will be a major job to fix, even just to strip the teak off and paint. To replace the teak will cost as much as the boat these days.   thanks! you think they would have comparable speed?   the swan for the sailor, the other for the shore sider, the swan sails magnificently, loves wind ward work, im sorry the other is a leaky risk, I've seen a lot of money spent on theme trying to stop leaks and they arnt the best sailing vessel particuley to wind ward. Both boats really arnt that good of a choice for long term live aboard ocean going, but I no you would enjoy the sailing capability's of the swan, very strongly built.   Bloke in Sydney we occasionally share an anchorage with has one of the Swan 41s of that age and yep she is a fine boat and he loves to sail her but still I'll stick to what I said earlier. For cruising that companionway is a pain in the butt and unless you are very young and very agile climbing up and down into the cave that is her interior could well lose its attraction quite quickly. The dodger installation problem should also be of concern to a cruiser. One whoops on my part I do confess is that I thought for some reason that the CT was built in the US. Silly thought indeed but allowing for the removal of the teak and presuming for one moment that the deck itself is still solid then I'd still go for the CT .... of the two. Acknowledging my brain slip re the CT's origins one would also figure that by now any sub standard hardware would have already been replaced. Speed wise one would have to think that the Swan would be the more rapid a machine all things being equal. Certainly the Swan would seem to have it all over the CT uphill but really as a cruiser you do pretty much anything you can to avoid more than the occasional bit of windward work. Arriving feeling relatively human is for me a priority and while a floating brick is not my idea of fun no matter how comfortable I'm still of the opinion that the comfort of the CT would make up for any loss when compared to the Swan. btw .... and I'm not prepared to put money on this but weren't those Swans supposed to be a major handful off the wind ?   The S&S Swan 41 has the manhole style companionway they were so fond of. Everything about those S&S boats was biased towards windward work offshore. Cruising comfort was not factored into their design philosophy. One thing to consider is the Swan is a much bigger boat - about 1/3 larger. SWAN 41 sailboat specifications and details on sailboatdata.com   The Swan 41 companionway is close enough to the cockpit that you have, in effect, a wide bridge deck and so you could put on a dodger. As well as the Swan 43, we looked at a Hylas (42?) aft cockpit boat and both had about six feet between the cockpit and the companionway. One of them had a mini cockpit at the companionway (Hylas). If you were in the real cockpit where one assumes you would have a dodger you would have to go onto the side deck around the dodger and then walk or crawl to the companionway which would have a pram hood over it. Not appealing at watch change at 0300 when its blowing like snot. Also makes it pretty hard if you were on watch and wanted a snack or a pee. It was a deal breaker for us. What makes a boat good for full crew racing for a day or four is not the same as what you want for a 20 day passage with a couple.   killarney_sailor said: The Swan 41 companionway is close enough to the cockpit that you have, in effect, a wide bridge deck and so you could put on a dodger. As well as the Swan 43, we looked at a Hylas (42?) aft cockpit boat and both had about six feet between the cockpit and the companionway. One of them had a mini cockpit at the companionway (Hylas). If you were in the real cockpit where one assumes you would have a dodger you would have to go onto the side deck around the dodger and then walk or crawl to the companionway which would have a pram hood over it. Not appealing at watch change at 0300 when its blowing like snot. Also makes it pretty hard if you were on watch and wanted a snack or a pee. It was a deal breaker for us. What makes a boat good for full crew racing for a day or four is not the same as what you want for a 20 day passage with a couple. Click to expand... Was the first CT38 from Bruce's post also Asian build ? Taiwan ? Hong Kong ? I don't know where CT where/are located. It was the first version I was commenting on. I'd hate to try and crawl under a dodger and down the rabbit hole. Then again I'm old and somewhat croaky. No dispute from me btw that the Swan would be the better boat performance wise but I was presuming that the OP was after a cruising boat ergo my favouring of the CT.   tdw said: Was the first CT38 from Bruce's post also Asian build ? Taiwan ? Hong Kong ? I don't know where CT where/are located. It was the first version I was commenting on. I'd hate to try and crawl under a dodger and down the rabbit hole. Then again I'm old and somewhat croaky. No dispute from me btw that the Swan would be the better boat performance wise but I was presuming that the OP was after a cruising boat ergo my favouring of the CT. Click to expand... It is interesting that CT came out with two 38s in the same year apparently that are about as different as they could be. One of the few things my wife insisted on was a proper bed. After looking at boats in the low-mid 40s with aft cockpits it became apparent we needed a centre-cockpit boat. That Hunter companionway is horrible. Did it never occur to them that boats heel?   Offset companionways have always been a tadge odd in my eyes. Very much from the inside out. That ladder in the Hunter ... oh my. Maybe Passport and Mason also used to do the offset thing. Made for a roomy quarter cabin I guess. Bruce, when we went with the Malo one of the last issues to be decided was sleeping cabin. We very nearly bought a lovely Warwick designed CC with a glorious aft cabin but alas a lousy galley. The Wombet usually comes to bed after me, I usually get up earlier and that counted out any form of Pullman style double. In the end we accepted the quite roomy v-berth of the Malo. Until I can justify an HR48 ( oh lordy will those pigs ever get off the ground) it will have to do.   Thanks for all the help everyone. To be clear I'm considering the CT38 design posted below, with the following specs. I quite frankly don't know a lot about sailboat design and would really appreciate input on this boat's design in the context of 1)ability to handle ocean passages 2)speed. LOA: 37.7' LWL: 30.83' Beam: 11.48' Listed SA: 628 ftsq Draft: 6.58' Disp: 16775 lbs Ballast: 8526 lb SA/Disp: 15.39 Bal/Disp: 50.82% Disp/Len: 255.56 RIG: I: 45' J: 15.8' P: 39.5' SA(Fore): 355.5ftsq SA(Main): 275.55ftsq Total(calc)SA: 628.05ftsq DL ratio: 255.56 SA/Disp: 15.39 Est. Forestay Len: 47.69'   Attachments By the specs she'd be a very good ocean sailer - looks like it's basically a detuned IOR racer. Bit light on sail area but that was pretty common on offshore boats back then. If it's in fundamentally good shape, I'd say do it. It's certainly good looking and I expect it has the usual lush teak interior of all Taiwan boats of that vintage. Standard things to check on a Taiwan boat of that vintage - chainplates & turnbuckles (for inferior metal), tanks (for inferior metal), wiring (often substandard), deck core if teak overlay.   I agree with SloopJonVB Hull speed is about 7.45 knots using the standard formula   ?             176K members Top Contributors this Month 220 COMMENTS Thoughts on 1984 Ta Chiao CT 41 Location: Mazatlan, Mexico. Boat: CT-41. Posts: 289. Re: Thoughts on 1984 Ta Chiao CT 41. Depends on how well the boat was cared for. You will find a whole group of people who hate them and will tell all kinds of tales like newspaper used as core materials, put together with nails, and the silliest rumor of all that they are not seaworthy. 1976 41'' TA CHIAO CT 1976 41'''' TA CHIAO CT ?????? Yes, the price seems high unless there is a great mark up for a center cockpit. I see you are local. There is a center cockpit on a dock (E) near us (Downtown Long Beach Marina). The owners have always been there when we have visited that dock on a weekend (maybe live aboards?). CT-41 Originally available in 4 versions: Standard (shown here) Center Cockpit Pilot house Pilot house/w center cockpit Based on the SEA WOLF 40. Literature lists William Garden as designer but this is disputed. CT 41 SailNet Archive. 87689 posts · Joined 1999. #3 · Jan 29, 2005. I have had a Seawolf 41 for a year now, and I still love it, but there are a number of caveats. I purchased mine as a liveaboard, and there is something about the interior of the CT/Seawolf/Formosa that I find much more "homey" than most sailboats this size. CT-41 CT-41 is a 41′ 0″ / 12.5 m monohull sailboat designed by William Garden and built by Ta Chiao starting in 1972. Pros & Cons Posts: 289. Re: Pros & Cons - CT41 Formosa. Hi folks, Just got a CT-41 in pretty good shape. Last 25 years in fresh water, very minor deterioration on decks, rebuilt motor, needs electronics, one fuel tank replaced and similar refit. Would love to talk with others with CT/Formosa boats or experience with them. Thoughts on 1984 Ta Chiao CT 41 Cruisers & Sailing Forums > The Fleet > Monohull Sailboats Thoughts on 1984 Ta Chiao CT 41 Pearson 424 or CT 41 The CT 41 is a leaky teaky. So you are likely to have some problems with water penetration, soft decks and perhaps rot down below. 2. The problems are not insurmountable but nonetheless, be prepared for a lot of work. 3. The CT 41 is a full keeled boat while the Pearson I believe has a modified fin keel. Review of CT 41 Specifications and Review of CT 41 based on the boat's specifications and artificial intelligense. Ct 41 The Ct 41 is a heavy sailboat which is under powered. It is reasonably stable / stiff and has an excellent righting capability if capsized. It is best suited as a heavy bluewater cruising boat. The fuel capacity is good. There is a good water supply range. 1981 Ta Chiao William Garden Designed CT 41 She is an extremely well-maintained William Garden designed CT 41. She's a full-keeled cutter-rigged ketch, with wooden spars (obsessively maintained), BRAND NEW tanbark sails, new wiring, etc. Her owner has lovingly restored her and addressed any issues she had prior to her coming into his life. Ct41 Posts: 3,067. The issue of leaks at the coach to deck roof joint being discussed is quite a common problem with many designs not only the CT 41s - includes power boats as well. Depending on the extent, age and position of the leak will determine how difficult a repair can be achieved successfully. Any Info about 1980 Ta Chiao CT 41? Join Date: Sep 2005. Location: Vancouver, Canada. Boat: custom 65 steel. Posts: 20. Images: 3. from a CT 41 owner, with 25 knts of wind, a 120 jib and a reefed main she does 7 to 8 knts with a max of 8.4 by the Autohelm meter and 6.8 to 7.6 knts with a max of 8.1 by the Garmin GPS off the wind. 1973 CT 41 Ketch for sale 1973 CT 41 US$59,000 Oxnard, California View 82 Photos Engine Volvo MD 21A Total Power 75hp Engine Hours 5500 Class Ketch Length 41ft Year 1973 Model 41 Capacity - New CT41 Owner I recently purchased a 1974 CT 41 that had been fully restored in like new condition. I noticed that my HIN# doesn't start with TAC like most CTs. My HIN starts with CLXCS. So I ran the HIN on boat history report and it showed the builder/manufacturer as Caillou Boats / Clipperships in Massachusetts. 1984 C&C 41 world cruiser? Hi everyone, I currently sail an Ericson 27 and am looking at upgrading to my endgame boat. Under a tight budget, I'm looking at a C&C 41 1984. I've been reading some mixed reviews from other than C&C owners about whether its really a blue water cruiser or not. While I am a long way from... SeaHunter CTS 41 Cat reviews? Interesting video of one in action. Boat is too light in the Bow. Bow has way too much up and down action for a 41 foot boat, especially a catamaran. They need to add some sandbags or lead toward the bow and move the Console forward, and maybe run with twin 450s instead of the weight of Quadruples. undefined: Reviews, Specifications, Built, Engine undefined Detailed Review If you are a boat enthusiast looking to get more information on specs, built, make, etc. of different boats, then here is a complete review of undefined. New CT 41 Owner I recently purchased a 1974 CT 41 that had been fully restored in like new condition. I noticed that my HIN# doesn't start with TAC like most CT's. My HIN starts with CLXCS. So I ran the HIN on boat history report and it showed the builder/manufacturer as Caillou Boats / Clipperships in Massachusetts. CT 41 boats for sale Find CT 41 boats for sale in your area & across the world on YachtWorld. Offering the best selection of CT boats to choose from. Buying A CT 41 I'm just closing on a deal to buy a 1974 CT41. Will be expanding horizons from my previous boat a Catalina 36 . Looking forward to more extended off shore cruising. Any tips on owning a Garden design CT boats for sale Some of the most iconic CT models currently listed include: cutter, 38, 41, 47 and 48. Specialized yacht brokers, dealers, and brokerages on YachtWorld have a diverse selection of CT models for sale, with listings spanning from 1973 year models to 1986. 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