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The Flying Phantom is the hydrofoil sports catamaran from the Phantom International shipyard! It is one of the first production models to offer flying catamarans for experienced crews. It is a demanding, fast boat, it is the top of the pyramid of light sailing catamarans.

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To fly in sport catamarans: the Flying Phantom was one of the first production catamarans to be equipped with foil, making flying navigation (almost) accessible to all.

The Flying Phantom has been declined in several models: the most sought-after is the "Flying Essential": it is equipped with a wing where the crew can rappel.

The Flying Phantom flying catamaran is no longer produced but you can find second-hand boats in near new condition on the second-hand market where you need a price of 25000€ to acquire this magnificent boat.

Production having stopped (Phantom International would have gone bankrupt), spare parts are complicated to find.

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Flying Phantom Elite

Flying Phantom Elite is a 18 ′ 1 ″ / 5.5 m catamaran sailboat designed by Martin Fischer and built by Phantom International starting in 2015.

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Auxilary power, accomodations, calculations.

The theoretical maximum speed that a displacement hull can move efficiently through the water is determined by it's waterline length and displacement. It may be unable to reach this speed if the boat is underpowered or heavily loaded, though it may exceed this speed given enough power. Read more.

Classic hull speed formula:

Hull Speed = 1.34 x √LWL

Max Speed/Length ratio = 8.26 ÷ Displacement/Length ratio .311 Hull Speed = Max Speed/Length ratio x √LWL

Sail Area / Displacement Ratio

A measure of the power of the sails relative to the weight of the boat. The higher the number, the higher the performance, but the harder the boat will be to handle. This ratio is a "non-dimensional" value that facilitates comparisons between boats of different types and sizes. Read more.

SA/D = SA ÷ (D ÷ 64) 2/3

• SA : Sail area in square feet, derived by adding the mainsail area to 100% of the foretriangle area (the lateral area above the deck between the mast and the forestay).
• D : Displacement in pounds.

Ballast / Displacement Ratio

A measure of the stability of a boat's hull that suggests how well a monohull will stand up to its sails. The ballast displacement ratio indicates how much of the weight of a boat is placed for maximum stability against capsizing and is an indicator of stiffness and resistance to capsize.

Ballast / Displacement * 100

Displacement / Length Ratio

A measure of the weight of the boat relative to it's length at the waterline. The higher a boat’s D/L ratio, the more easily it will carry a load and the more comfortable its motion will be. The lower a boat's ratio is, the less power it takes to drive the boat to its nominal hull speed or beyond. Read more.

D/L = (D ÷ 2240) ÷ (0.01 x LWL)³

• D: Displacement of the boat in pounds.
• LWL: Waterline length in feet

Comfort Ratio

This ratio assess how quickly and abruptly a boat’s hull reacts to waves in a significant seaway, these being the elements of a boat’s motion most likely to cause seasickness. Read more.

Comfort ratio = D ÷ (.65 x (.7 LWL + .3 LOA) x Beam 1.33 )

• D: Displacement of the boat in pounds
• LOA: Length overall in feet
• Beam: Width of boat at the widest point in feet

Capsize Screening Formula

This formula attempts to indicate whether a given boat might be too wide and light to readily right itself after being overturned in extreme conditions. Read more.

CSV = Beam ÷ ³√(D / 64)

Development team: Alex Udin, Franck Cammas and Groupama sailing team Hulls: Pre preg Carbon, Nomex sandwich Mast: 9.6m / Tapered / Pre preg Carbon cured in autoclave Appendages: T-foil rudders +L-shape foiling dagger boards – Pre preg Carbon cured in autoclave Main sail: 18sqm with mast Jib: 5.5sqm Gennaker: 24sqm

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Technical data for Flying Phantom:

• Length: 5,52m (18ft) 
• Width: 3,00m 
• Weight: 155kg 
• Mast height: 9,6m 
• Mainsail: 18sqm 
• Jib: 5,5sqm
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Flying Phantom F 18 Catamaran

Discussion in ' Multihulls ' started by Doug Lord , Jul 13, 2012 .

Doug Lord Flight Ready

Here is a blurb from catamaran racing(in 2011) about the "Flying Phantom F18". Its worth its own thread because Martin Fischer( see thread "Mayfly") is involved with design and foil development: ( There is more to this story-I talked to Martin Fischer earlier this week and he is working on the "flying " version-more soon ,I hope) http://www.sail-innovation.com/ http://www.catsailingnews.com/2011/04/new-f18-design-phantom-by-alex-udin.html (2011 article) This is more good news for the F18 Class. SI Team , Olivier Backes and Arnaud Jarlegan crowned World Champs in 2010 with extra proven sails and now , team CEO , Alex Udin is launching a new F18 design. From what I'm seeing this could like the "Final Merge" style, but now with more feedback and some new cats launched. Merge: Capricorn, Wildcat, USA17-AC45, Nacra F20 and each of them with their lineage designs included. You'll see why when more info available. The Formula 18 continues its development within current rules, although as mentioned before, no much room to play with critical hull forms, lets see if this Phantom will become a Menace for the big 3, as the new Cirrus R with Mischa and Bastian. ------------ Udin's press release: Sail Innovation is proud to announce the launch of the Phantom project. After their F18 world title, Olivier Backes and Arnaud Jarlegan were looking for a new challenge for 2011. We decided to develop a brand new 18' in close collaboration with Martin Fischer, in order to present a flying cat for Olympics Games selection for Rio. The Phantom 18' is based on all the development Martin’s did on the foils on the A Class since several years. After testing a lots of different foils and lifting rudders designs, Martin has find a brand new foils shape in combination with special lifting rudders which allows the boat to be really stable and fast while flying but also be very competitive in the light wind. We are convinced by the fact the flying cats is probably the future of our sports in terms of performance but also for the show. Pictures from SA multihulls "$40000 boat": An F18 version of this 18” has been developed in parallel to test the hull in different configuration. We are actually finishing the first boat in the F18 version in order to prepare the Eurocat. Olivier and Arnaud will be the first crew sailing on the boat. I am already very proud of all the team for being so much involved in this challenging project, it is another fantastic adventure for SAIL INNOVATION. Cheers ALEX Pictures from SA Multihulls, the "$40000" boat(not necessarily the price of this boat): click-  

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Foil system will be an improved version of the Mayfly setup, designed by Martin Fischer. Click on the images and check out the rudder foils: click-  

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F18 Phantom Project Heres a good rendering showing the foils-look carefully at the foils of the Mayfly in the previous post: click-( be sure to do this-its worth seeing this big image)  

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Phantom 18 More on this boat here: http://www.catsailingnews.com/2012/07/learning-to-fly-ii-flying-phantom.html  

Flying Phantom Here's a picture of the boat flying and a mention in this article: http://www.catsailingnews.com/ click-  

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Flying Phantom-the Revolution Lives! Excellent article on this boat here: http://www.catsailingnews.com/2013/05/flying-phantom-update-elevated-state-of.html Excerpt from the article: Specs The boat is not just a modified F18 but it is entirely designed to foil, the only common part is the shape of the hulls. Lenght: 5,52m / 18" Width: 3,00m Mast: 9,5m / Carbon autoclaved Weight: 150kg Hulls construction: PVC sandwich, carbon fiber, epoxy Main area: 18sqm with mast Jib area: 5sqm Gennaker area: 24sqm Speed against other racing boats As soon as you have enough wind to fly a hull in 6 knots of True Wind Speed, the boat is faster upwind and downwind than an F18, the boat takes off downwind at 10 knots of TWS and then is much faster than most of the beach cats. We did some speed testing against a Vampire Marstrom 20 (3,5m wide) and the Phantom is faster downwind as soon as it foils and very similar upwind in 15knots of TWS. Max Speed We have actually reached 27 knots in 18 knots of TWS without kite and no one trapezing , we are actually working to improve the control of the steering which is clearly the limit to go faster. We believe we could achieve between 30 and 35 knots while we will have improved the stability of the boat. Goal of the project and production alternatives The target is to be able to produce a real production boat for next year, we are still doing some development on the foils and we try to make the systems as simple as possible in order to get a boat usable by most of the club sailors. We believe the new generation of foiling cats could attract more people to cat sailing, like the parabolic ski did 10 years ago. All sailors who sailed the boat are extremely enthusiastic, flying above the water brings incredible new sensations and although not requiring any specific skills. Costs The target price is to be only slightly more expensive than an F18 by having a fully industrialized product and selling direct. We hope the boat will be around 25 000 Euros ex tax. Click for bigger view: Pictures by Pierrick Contin/ Sail Innovation  

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Flying This boat is just the begining and is an example of "trickle down" from the 34th Americas Cup-particularly the revolutionary mainfoil design of Team New Zealand refined by the braintrust of Sail Innovation. There are a number of manufacturers considering doing cat foilers across a range of sizes-if they work as well as the Flying Phantom claims to then we're about to be in a whole new world where foiling will be accessible to just about everybody-not just the most athletic among us. ------- PS-Thanks, Manfred!  

Flying Phantom Here is new video-extraordinary. Those numbers are as good or better than a Moth in terms of multiple of windspeed: speed = 2.29-2.93 times windspeed! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5doBIv3TVbA&feature=player_embedded  

Flying Phantom New video from Cat sailing and racing of the Flying Phantom: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XR1be_hVrQI&feature=player_embedded  

Flying Phantom More pictures of the Flying Phantom at 29 knots here: http://www.catsailingnews.com/2013/11/fine-tuning-flying-phantom-at-29knots.html see picture below--- This is the first production boat to use a refined version of the foil system(3foil, single main foil) and foil pioneered by TNZ and adopted to one degree or another by all the AC 72's and several C Class boats. Flying Phantom: stable at 29 knots:  

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Flying Phantom Latest video of the Flying Phantom, first producrion catamaran foiler(Phantom International) utilizing a refined version of the foil configuration(and foil) pioneered by TNZ in the 34th America's Cup. Soon to debut at the Paris boatshow.(according to front page SA) Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Sail-Innovation/161300650641076?ref=stream&hc_location=stream Another facebook page for Phantom International: https://www.facebook.com/PhantomInternational?ref=stream&hc_location=stream Twitter: https://twitter.com/PhantomInt =============== What they say about it: "The FLYING PHANTOM is the first production flying catamaran for general public, it is opening a new era in sailing; foiling above the water from 7 knots of wind and reach more than 30 knots of speed in 15-20 knots of wind ! The revolution is on, realize your dream, fly above the water ! " (emphasis by dl) ======= This boat is stable and fast! Hopefully the first of many more..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFPgt9p5MR0&feature=youtu.be (YouTube Video copyright Phantom International and published on their Facebook page) ======================  

Flying Phantom This is the first time I've run into a video on both youtube and vimeo. This is the same content( the extraordinary one design Flying Phantom foiler) as the last post in the vimeo format-is their any difference? http://vimeo.com/80210023  

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Well Doug, I've scored a free pass to the Paris boat show. Jealous?  

Flying Phantom Here is an interview(originally from SA) with Alex Udin of Sail Innovation talking about the Flying Phantom and his help(the foils) to the Groupama C Class project: http://vimeo.com/75113731  

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The Flying Phantom

• By Bruce Gain
• Updated: March 12, 2014

Most of us will never have the thrill of flying at 30 knots along the water in the San Francisco Bay on an AC72 in our lifetime, but the Flying Phantom’s developers say the sensation of foiling on their 18-foot catamaran offers a taste of what sailing an America’s Cup boat is like.

While this writer has not yet tested the boat, I have seen it blasting along at more than 20 knots past the rocky coastline of Saint Lunaire, France, and the published specs are indeed impressive. You can supposedly start foiling with the gennaker in seven knots of wind and reach the 30-knot mark in a downwind breeze of 15-20 knots. Foiling upwind is not a problem, either, in a true windspeed of 10 or more knots. The fast-yet-stable design will allow a weekend sailor a steady foiling experience at a maximum speed of 35 knots, the designers says. The price tag: 29,000 euros ($40,000).

“We want to democratize foiling,” Alexandre Udin, CEO of Phantom International, says.

The Flying Phantom’s launch came just a few weeks after the end of the very dramatic America’s Cup last year, which was a fantastic advertisement for foiling, Udin says.

“The last America’s Cup was the greatest thing that could have happened to the world of sailing, thanks to the revolutionary vision of Larry Ellison and Russell Coutts,” Udin says. “I strongly believe that foiling cats are the future of our sport and will attract the younger generation to sailing.”

The genesis of what Udin calls the “Phantom Project” began about three years ago. Martin Fischer, one of the industry’s most respected foiling specialists, was responsible for the boat’s overall design, while leaving the sail design to Udin. The idea was to create a one-design boat geared for speed and foiling that would be forgiving enough so a small error by an amateur sailor would not cause the boat to do somersaults over the water.

An F18 racing catamaran developed in parallel served as a test boat for the Phantom Project. The speed tweaks proved worthy enough for Olivier Backes and Matthieu Vandame to win the F18 World Championship title in 2012.

Fisher and the design team also worked with Franck Cammas and Groupama to develop the foil technology on Groupama C. Under a technology-sharing agreement, Fischer was able to use technologies gained from Groupama C ‘s development on the Phantom project. Cammas, in turn, applied technology from the Phantom F18 to Groupama’s design.

A main issue was figuring out how to apply Groupama C ‘s design tweaks on the Phantom in a way that would not make the boat too fast and radical for amateur sailors to handle, a key challenge for such a small boat. A critical variable was finding the sweet spot angle for the foils and rudders, built around a carbon mast, boom, and hull. Ultimately, the Phantom’s final design was a compromise between lowering drag and adding stability.

The design team tried out eight foils and four generations of rudders before they were satisfied. “In the end, we achieved high performance and stability, in a way that weekend sailors can appreciate,” Udin says.

Udin says Phantom International has sold over 30 boats, with eight boats scheduled for delivery in the U.S. So far, the company has invested 500,000 euros and expects to see sales of 4.5 million euros in the near future.

The very deep and dark reds and blacks of the display model accent the “L’” shape of the foils and the “T” design of the rudders on the catamaran, giving it that stealthy “phantom” look. But for owners who want something else, over a thousand different color schemes are available.

Maybe understated colors and graphics might better serve those who want to discretely enter and then win an amateur cat race–before anyone has time to wonder how an amateur sailor was suddenly able to foil along at speeds of more than 30 knots.

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