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Review of the O'Day Mariner 19 Sailboat

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For over 40 years, the 19-foot Mariner sailboat has been a popular daysailer. Based on the hull of the fast, stable Rhodes 19, the Mariner added a small cabin and other features. Built by O'Day from 1963 through 1979, and currently, by Stuart Marine, the Mariner was marketed as a family daysailer.

As one of the first affordable, trailerable fiberglass sailboats, the Mariner has been popular on lakes and protected bays every since. With its roomy cockpit, wide-beamed stability, and easy sailing characteristics, the Mariner deserves its reputation and is still among the best general-purpose sailboats of its size.

• Excellent boat for learning to sail and for family daysailing
• Stable and handles well if wind or waves kick up
• Very large cockpit provides comfortable sailing for 4 to 6 crew
• Solid and well constructed; older boats have held up well
• Self-righting and positive flotation
• Cabin is useful for daysailing but cramped for sleeping aboard for long
• Older boats susceptible to leaks in centerboard locker (if abused by previous owners)
• Early models lacked self-bailing cockpits

Specifications

• Length overall: 19 feet 2 inches
• Beam: 7 feet
• Draft: keelboat: 3 feet 3 inches - centerboard up: 10 inches - centerboard down: 4 feet 11 inches
• Empty weight: keelboat: 1435 lbs. - centerboard: 1305 lbs.
• Sail area (main and fractional jib): 185 sqft
• Mast height (deck-stepped): 27 feet 10 inches
• Rudder: keelboat: fixed - centerboard: kick-up
• Recommended outboard engine: 2-6 HP
• MSRP $24,000 depending on options - widely available used (NADA Marine Guide average retail price for 1977 models: $2,110)
• Parts readily available for older boats, plus information from owners and class associations

Review of the Mariner 19 Sailboat

In the 1950s the Rhodes 19 was a popular wooden racing and daysailing sailboat. In 1963 Olympic gold-medal sail racer George O'Day bought the hull design, redesigned the topsides with a small cabin, and began producing one of the first affordable fiberglass family sailboats, the Mariner 19. While still producing a keel version, O'Day offered a centerboard option that improved trailer launching and allowed the Mariner to sail up to a beach.

The Mariner rapidly became a popular club one-design racer but also a good family boat seen widely on lakes and bays. By 1979 O'Day had produced almost 3800 Mariners - a huge number for any one model - and after O'Day discontinued the Mariner to focus on larger cruising sailboats, Spindrift and then Stuart Marine continued building the Mariner. The Mariner is still being built - probably the longest continuous production run of any sailboat model ever.

In the late 1960s and 1970s, design changes increased the Mariner's popularity for family sailing. The 2+2 model added two more berths in the cabin, for a total of four, although the cabin really is too cramped to call this boat a cruiser. (Sleeping aboard is more like backpack camping.) The cockpit length was increased to the transom, making a much larger space than in most boats of this size.

The current model includes nonskid on deck and the cockpit seats, all control lines led to the cockpit, positive flotation, and a kick-up rudder on the centerboard model that allows the boat into very shoal waters. With its wide beam and fractional jib that reduces heeling, the Mariner is stable and safe to sail in most conditions.

Virtually all Mariner owners say they'd buy one again - they have no regrets. The features most commonly cited are its stability ("virtually untippable"), its oversized cockpit (where you spend most of your time anyway), and how easily it can be launched (even on a shallow boat ramp).

Perhaps most important, the Mariner is very forgiving of the sailor's mistakes - and thus is an excellent beginning boat. The few complaints of Mariner owners focus on the cramped interior, where the cabin roof is too low for taller people to sit on the settees without bumping your head.

Good Mariners can readily be found on the used market. There are more likely to be problems with an old trailer (rust, wear and tear) than the fiberglass boat itself unless it was abused by a previous owner. For a new owner, The Mariner Class Association offers many benefits, including boat information, sailing tips, sources for parts, and a newsletter.

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Hi there, I'm considering buying a 1970 O'day mariner 19. I have little experience sailing and have discovered through research that this is a good stable, safe boat to learn on. I live in Newfoundland where there are many sheltered bays in which to sail but it is almost always windy which of courses creates a fair bit of choppy water. I am wondering if the mariner 19 is a good, safe boat for salt water (not the open ocean) but large open bays. It appears that most people use this boat on fresh water lakes. I have also been looking into the sandpiper 565. If anyone has any advice on the sea capabilities of either of these boats, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, Mike  

There are many mariners out there doing coastal sailing and they are suited just fine to it. Very few of the ones that I have seen or sailed on have been set up for reefing so you would probably need to do that if it tends to be windy. They are not the fastest boat in a chop but they still move along just fine although they are a bit wet. I believe that there were both centerboard and keel models and you would probably want to look for a keel model.  

Thanks for the advice Klem. The boat that I am looking at is a centreboard model.  

Don't remember if the Mariner had an open or self-bailing cockit. If not self-bailing, that would be a concern.  

ODay Mariner 19 I have a 1977 model O'Day Mariner with centerboard, and I find it to be somewhat overcanvassed for even the lighter wind areas of the southern San Francisco and northern Monterey Bays, at least with only 1 or 2 people on board. Yes, it does have a self-draining cocpit; however the drains are so small that they clog easily. My boat came with reef points in the (rather worn out) main; the first thing I did after cleaning the bottom was to put in some jiffy reefing hardware. In my opinion it's a much better lake than ocean boat. I wish I had my old Montgomery 17, that was a rugged little sea boat! (many single-handed trips to the SoCal channel islands when I lived down there).  

A very good friend of mine regularly sails his centerboard-model O'Day Mariner on Lake Michigan, which I would not equate with open ocean sailing, but I would say has the potential to equal or exceed the conditions one might find sailing in large open ocean bays. I've joined him on many occasions and have found the boat a delight to sail in waves and wind. Admittedly, we haven't been out in 8 to 10 footers but I'm not sure you want to be out in Lake Michigan in many small boats in those conditions. On the big lake, we generally sail with the hatch boards in. While I agree with an earlier poster that the cockpit drains are under-sized, I note that the cockpit is relatively shallow. In terms of reefing, my friend intends to add that capability this year as his boat didn't come with it. The boat could probably stand for a reef at 20 kts of windspeed or so. For whatever it is worth, by this eye, I find the Mariner to be among the prettiest of the small trailer-sailers. This may have something to do with my understanding (which may be incorrect) that the hull design was based upon the Rhodes 19.  

Wuffie said: For whatever it is worth, by this eye, I find the Mariner to be among the prettiest of the small trailer-sailers. This may have something to do with my understanding (which may be incorrect) that the hull design was based upon the Rhodes 19. Click to expand...

If it is a centerboard model and it is really windy where you sail, it might not be ideal. If you need a centerboard for other reasons, it could be made to work with a good reefing system but if a centerboard isn't necessary, there are probably better options.  

About 40 years ago, a Mariner got caught in a thunderstorm on Lake Charlevoix in Michigan. The boat ended up getting swamped (including the cabin). Fortunately, the boat didn't sink, and everyone survived ok. I don't know if it was the keel or the centerboard version. I was out on my sunfish sailboat on the same lake but a few miles away, so I didn't see it first hand.  

Pleased to discover this discussion. I am planning a similar voyage, only in reverse (initially) - from the Keewenaw on Lake Superior downstream to Newfoundland is the dream. I am sailing an O'Day Mariner 19 2+2, the keeled version. Brilliant little sloop. I know it is on the small side, but I love the quote, paraphrasing: "Big boats attract big forces." [Around the world at 73, in a ten foot boat... excellent prior r/Sailing post]( Present Project ) I have a lot of work and preparation ahead of me, and I an glad for the Mariner, because scaling these preparations up for a larger vessel would be an order of magnitude more expensive, consuming and daunting: +I am going to reinforce the entire transom, both for the outboard mount and rudder gudgeon security, as well as to keep the transom firmly attached! +get 3000 gph, at least, out of two bilge pumps, keep the spare or mount it somewhere remote/hard to access. Route the auto pump out the transom high, instead of the less than ideal factory arrangement of through a companionway hatch to two cockpit scuppers. I also don't like the vulnerability of the scupper throughhulls vis-a-vis the floating cabin sole ply board. Rework. Back this gph with serious juice: +Overhaul the entire electrical: from dual deep batteries secured in a custom box where the portapot used to go - centered, just forward the keel timbers - instead of in a lazarette, as designed. LED lighting throughout, including running, reading rechargeable anchor light, and lazarette illumination. + got the perfect humminbird plotter/sounder combination, JUST sprang for the superb HX851, looking to replace the fixed vhf with Standard Horizon's AIS-VHF combo, proximity alarms, in lieu of radar for the fog and shipping. Score a large-ish, flexible solar array for chargin the bank on calm days, and a square panel permanent into the forward hatch cover for a small constant trickle (i have a long shaft outboard, but no alternator)... wondering if wind generation is better for up North here, but like the idea of solar. Several other electrical concerns I've likely forgotten now. Here's one: I'd like to glass in the fuel tank lazarette section, and replace it with a plastic tank to fit, as the metal can corrodes, and the lazarettes are open to the bilge: fume explosion risk with no blower planned, gimbaled tiny alcohol stove, and the current sitch just moves striping to much. +I'd like to have a water tank opposite eventually, but we will just filter the lakes until Southern Huron if we drain the onboard beverages while out there. +JUST picked up Bushnell scopes with illum compass, beautiful, too. Need to arrange for paper chart table on the v birth. Thinking of ditching all the cushions except maybe one quarter birth's, for space, covering the horizontal surfaces with seatek for some comfort and getting one great waterproof ocean style sleeping bag and some sort of flat waterproof clothes storage to dual porpoise extra sprawl "comfort" padding. Space is tight, but I figure I have the displacement, and need, for 850 pounds of gear. + at fifteen pounds, 800 some bucks, gonna carry a two man life raft. Have drysuits, helmets, wetsuits, type three vests with whistles and strobes, knives and spikes.. Need some more booties and gloves, caps.. It can be a somewhat wet cockpit. + need fore and aft webbing, harnesses, pulpit and lifelines. May just redo the entire rubrail and stapled hull-deck joint during this process. Reinforce the bow, shroud areas, as transom, beefy cleats, couple good mount small winches for whatever, more anchor options, 6 foot sea anchor... there's ALWAYS a lee shore in the Great Lakes. A series drogue seems ill-advised for such a small, low, boat with a large exposed cockpit. Running rig is good. Spring for new standing rigging, probably never been done. A roller furling heads'l would be beaut, especially without a pulpit currently, or cut a storm jib. Reefing points. Got a good amount of sail repair supply, tools, backup lighting. Flares. Just picked up waterproofed iPad to augment charts, stealing marina wifi, going ashore, occasional movie and extra books and reading. Might have to bring a Mac to get work done. Gah! Pelican case. Paper reading? Bowditch's, Calder's, Pardey's, even Esquemelin. So many titles you want to bring, so little dry space on a nineteen foot boat. Apart from that, need a Coast Pilot. Odds and ends are set. +Note to self: bring peanut butter, French Press. Some safe way to make hot coffee when everything is rough. Maybe I should stick to electric kettle instead of gimbal wall-mount stove? Battery draw vs. discrete fuel. Any suggestions? I can't be entirely without comforts (coffee). + there's SO MUCH to do, and I am aiming before forty, when I might have more self preservation interest that argues for a larger boat. + replace & augment all the floatation to all but guarantee positive buoyancy. Only worry is the keel ripping off or hitting a partially submerged tree. The away bag is already packed. + maybe a family member cares enough about me to invest in an EPIRB. + carry plenty of little odds and ends, hardware, curved/curvable wood "scrap" and plenty of 5200 for breach repair while underway. + a good friend as avoid as myself, as no precaution compares to being awake and rational at the helm. I know I'm forgetting some plans... Oh yeah. Learned not to trust outboards, especially for river duty. She's gonna have an oar station in the big beautiful cockpit, double as boat hook, strap them to stanchions while sailing. Inspired by the Norseboat and [ArcticMariner.org](ArcticMariner.org), but cannot afford the Norseboat. I think I will appreciate the full keel, unless Crazy Eddy's take me, or too many missed beachable stopovers make me long for the swing keel... but I think better stability, windward performance and solidity is worth the additional permanent draft and weight. ~ So, the plan is the big Lakes get a thorough exploration, especially my childhood home of Northern Lake Michigan. Perhaps the following season, Toronto, St. Lawrence, winter in Montreal ou Quebec. Perfect the French (with 17th Century bumokin Northwoods French!), Gulf of St. Lawrence and Newfoundland following season, where I've dreamt of exploring, then make it around the Fax to Rockland, where I get the Mariner outfit for Blue Water at Stuart Marine. Do I risk jumping the big pond in this??! I was taken aback by how encouraging r/Sailing was to the inexperienced circumnavigation hopeful. A lot of thought and prep, and/or money, and/or blind guts need go into such a thing. I'd REALLY like to get her to the Mediterranean, and ultimately the Indian Ocean, or the Caribbean as runner up. Returning back to Newfoundland or Northern Michigan to farm quietly. Am I crazy? I have 45 foot ketch charter, sailing instructor, commercial fishing experience, so I know what it potentislly takes if you want to do it safely. I have fast tidal experience aboard my old Pearson 30, in San Francisco Bay, and I've worked on marine systems up to the point of going aloft on Bill Buckley's old schooner, Cyrano... but one can never be too prepared. It IS a nineteen foot vessel, and I hate sharks! I am worried about reengineering the self-draining cockpits to be larger diameter. I would like to put seacocks or some such... the bare hose clamps on thru hulls worry me a great deal. I am also considering rerigging as a bowsprit cutter as I replace the standing rigging... gaff rigged, shorter, sturdier mast, beefier mast support arch or post, reefing and stays'l options, and short bowsprit to meet the legal requirements of 20 foot LOA of the St. Lawrence seaway locks. Any advice is welcome. Who am I to second guess the elegant Rhodes-designed sloop, but a strong, shorter, monolithic mainmast and a gaff main with rings instead of a bolt rope would make me a lot more comfortable. Besides, then I could get all new tanbark sails! I am open to any other ideas to make this laker a seaworthy as possible. The little Mariner has a Dansk name, and a Celtic skipper... it's bound to go well: they've always gotten along great! ;-j Here she is now: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_yFhHZAjbR2U/THuy68mMQYI/AAAAAAAAAqc/uG0CfvFG03U/s1600/P4140574.JPG  

Kaedmon said: Pleased to discover this discussion. I am planning a similar voyage, only in reverse (initially) - from the Keewenaw on Lake Superior downstream to Newfoundland is the dream. I am sailing an O'Day Mariner 19 2+2, the keeled version. Brilliant little sloop. I know it is on the small side, but I love the quote, paraphrasing: "Big boats attract big forces." [Around the world at 73, in a ten foot boat... excellent prior r/Sailing post]( Present Project ) I have a lot of work and preparation ahead of me, and I an glad for the Mariner, because scaling these preparations up for a larger vessel would be an order of magnitude more expensive, consuming and daunting: +I am going to reinforce the entire transom, both for the outboard mount and rudder gudgeon security, as well as to keep the transom firmly attached! +get 3000 gph, at least, out of two bilge pumps, keep the spare or mount it somewhere remote/hard to access. Route the auto pump out the transom high, instead of the less than ideal factory arrangement of through a companionway hatch to two cockpit scuppers. I also don't like the vulnerability of the scupper throughhulls vis-a-vis the floating cabin sole ply board. Rework. Back this gph with serious juice: +Overhaul the entire electrical: from dual deep batteries secured in a custom box where the portapot used to go - centered, just forward the keel timbers - instead of in a lazarette, as designed. LED lighting throughout, including running, reading rechargeable anchor light, and lazarette illumination. + got the perfect humminbird plotter/sounder combination, JUST sprang for the superb HX851, looking to replace the fixed vhf with Standard Horizon's AIS-VHF combo, proximity alarms, in lieu of radar for the fog and shipping. Score a large-ish, flexible solar array for chargin the bank on calm days, and a square panel permanent into the forward hatch cover for a small constant trickle (i have a long shaft outboard, but no alternator)... wondering if wind generation is better for up North here, but like the idea of solar. Several other electrical concerns I've likely forgotten now. Here's one: I'd like to glass in the fuel tank lazarette section, and replace it with a plastic tank to fit, as the metal can corrodes, and the lazarettes are open to the bilge: fume explosion risk with no blower planned, gimbaled tiny alcohol stove, and the current sitch just moves striping to much. +I'd like to have a water tank opposite eventually, but we will just filter the lakes until Southern Huron if we drain the onboard beverages while out there. +JUST picked up Bushnell scopes with illum compass, beautiful, too. Need to arrange for paper chart table on the v birth. Thinking of ditching all the cushions except maybe one quarter birth's, for space, covering the horizontal surfaces with seatek for some comfort and getting one great waterproof ocean style sleeping bag and some sort of flat waterproof clothes storage to dual porpoise extra sprawl "comfort" padding. Space is tight, but I figure I have the displacement, and need, for 850 pounds of gear. + at fifteen pounds, 800 some bucks, gonna carry a two man life raft. Have drysuits, helmets, wetsuits, type three vests with whistles and strobes, knives and spikes.. Need some more booties and gloves, caps.. It can be a somewhat wet cockpit. + need fore and aft webbing, harnesses, pulpit and lifelines. May just redo the entire rubrail and stapled hull-deck joint during this process. Reinforce the bow, shroud areas, as transom, beefy cleats, couple good mount small winches for whatever, more anchor options, 6 foot sea anchor... there's ALWAYS a lee shore in the Great Lakes. A series drogue seems ill-advised for such a small, low, boat with a large exposed cockpit. Running rig is good. Spring for new standing rigging, probably never been done. A roller furling heads'l would be beaut, especially without a pulpit currently, or cut a storm jib. Reefing points. Got a good amount of sail repair supply, tools, backup lighting. Flares. Just picked up waterproofed iPad to augment charts, stealing marina wifi, going ashore, occasional movie and extra books and reading. Might have to bring a Mac to get work done. Gah! Pelican case. Paper reading? Bowditch's, Calder's, Pardey's, even Esquemelin. So many titles you want to bring, so little dry space on a nineteen foot boat. Apart from that, need a Coast Pilot. Odds and ends are set. +Note to self: bring peanut butter, French Press. Some safe way to make hot coffee when everything is rough. Maybe I should stick to electric kettle instead of gimbal wall-mount stove? Battery draw vs. discrete fuel. Any suggestions? I can't be entirely without comforts (coffee). + there's SO MUCH to do, and I am aiming before forty, when I might have more self preservation interest that argues for a larger boat. + replace & augment all the floatation to all but guarantee positive buoyancy. Only worry is the keel ripping off or hitting a partially submerged tree. The away bag is already packed. + maybe a family member cares enough about me to invest in an EPIRB. + carry plenty of little odds and ends, hardware, curved/curvable wood "scrap" and plenty of 5200 for breach repair while underway. + a good friend as avoid as myself, as no precaution compares to being awake and rational at the helm. I know I'm forgetting some plans... Oh yeah. Learned not to trust outboards, especially for river duty. She's gonna have an oar station in the big beautiful cockpit, double as boat hook, strap them to stanchions while sailing. Inspired by the Norseboat and [ArcticMariner.org](ArcticMariner.org), but cannot afford the Norseboat. I think I will appreciate the full keel, unless Crazy Eddy's take me, or too many missed beachable stopovers make me long for the swing keel... but I think better stability, windward performance and solidity is worth the additional permanent draft and weight. ~ So, the plan is the big Lakes get a thorough exploration, especially my childhood home of Northern Lake Michigan. Perhaps the following season, Toronto, St. Lawrence, winter in Montreal ou Quebec. Perfect the French (with 17th Century bumokin Northwoods French!), Gulf of St. Lawrence and Newfoundland following season, where I've dreamt of exploring, then make it around the Fax to Rockland, where I get the Mariner outfit for Blue Water at Stuart Marine. Do I risk jumping the big pond in this??! I was taken aback by how encouraging r/Sailing was to the inexperienced circumnavigation hopeful. A lot of thought and prep, and/or money, and/or blind guts need go into such a thing. I'd REALLY like to get her to the Mediterranean, and ultimately the Indian Ocean, or the Caribbean as runner up. Returning back to Newfoundland or Northern Michigan to farm quietly. Am I crazy? I have 45 foot ketch charter, sailing instructor, commercial fishing experience, so I know what it potentislly takes if you want to do it safely. I have fast tidal experience aboard my old Pearson 30, in San Francisco Bay, and I've worked on marine systems up to the point of going aloft on Bill Buckley's old schooner, Cyrano... but one can never be too prepared. It IS a nineteen foot vessel, and I hate sharks! I am worried about reengineering the self-draining cockpits to be larger diameter. I would like to put seacocks or some such... the bare hose clamps on thru hulls worry me a great deal. I am also considering rerigging as a bowsprit cutter as I replace the standing rigging... gaff rigged, shorter, sturdier mast, beefier mast support arch or post, reefing and stays'l options, and short bowsprit to meet the legal requirements of 20 foot LOA of the St. Lawrence seaway locks. Any advice is welcome. Who am I to second guess the elegant Rhodes-designed sloop, but a strong, shorter, monolithic mainmast and a gaff main with rings instead of a bolt rope would make me a lot more comfortable. Besides, then I could get all new tanbark sails! I am open to any other ideas to make this laker a seaworthy as possible. The little Mariner has a Dansk name, and a Celtic skipper... it's bound to go well: they've always gotten along great! ;-j Here she is now: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_yFhHZAjbR2U/THuy68mMQYI/AAAAAAAAAqc/uG0CfvFG03U/s1600/P4140574.JPG Click to expand...

Here's an idea of the cutter rig I had in mind: Rerigging Sketch  

Reviving this thread because I had a 1968 O'Day Mariner 2+2 for 10 years on Lake St-Louis in Montreal. Add my vote to scotthenry and Wuffie: Delightful boat. Spacious cockpit with (small) scuppers. Room for 4 adults with a cooler and an afternoon, or even 2 adults and a weekend in the enclosed cabin. At 1300lbs and 19 feet it acts like a small sailboat. With only 150lbs in its centerboard, it can act like a big dinghy. A 10kt wind is the sweet spot. The Mariner is a joy, responsive and surprisingly fast for an older design. But when it's over 15kts then choose your crew carefully. Some nimble human ballast is necessary. Keep the hatchboards in and tie down the lazarettes. My main had 1 reef, maybe it should have had 2. When the wind hit 20+ kts I'd just stay home. I had one knockdown, caught by a gust when my hand should have been on the mainsheet. The main was half-submerged so I had to swim around to the centerboard for a little persuasion. She popped back on her feet quickly.  

For what it is worth, the Mariner began life as the Rhodes 19 and in its earliest form was delivered with the same bulb keel as the Rhodes 19. The very first Mariner I saw (1962 or 1963) had the same wood slatted seats and cockpit sole as the original Rhodes 19. At some point early in production the centerboard version was offered as an option and shortly after the self-bailing cockpit was offered. While these were very nice daysailors and passable overnighters, the hull form would not make a Mariner a good foundation to build an offshore cruiser as one of the posters seems to suggest doing. If one wanted to sail in higher breezes and rougher sea states with a Rhodes 19, ideally it would be one of the keel models and one with a self bailing cockpit. I would certainly want to be able to reef the mainsail and add big cockpit drains out through the transom with flaps to prevent following waves from filling the cockpit. These boats get much harder to steer and lose a lot of stability once there is water in the cockpit. Someone above mentioned switching to a gaff rig. That would be a really bad idea. The Rhodes 19/Mariner 19 would also be a poor platform for a gaff rig since the center of lateral resistance is too far forward. Also this is too small a boat to make any sense as a cutter rig as well. The reality is that these boats sail very nicely and are well designed for their intended purpose. There is no reason to change the rig since it works so well with the boat as designed. Respectfully, Jeff  

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The o'day 19 is a 19.0ft fractional sloop designed by c. raymond hunt associates and built in fiberglass by o'day corp. since 1979., 525 units have been built..

The O'day 19 is a light sailboat which is a reasonably good performer. It is very stable / stiff and has a low righting capability if capsized. It is best suited as a day-boat.

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O'Day 19 is a 18 ′ 11 ″ / 5.8 m monohull sailboat designed by Raymond Hunt (C.R. Hunt & Assoc.) and John Deknatel and built by Bangor Punta Corp. and O'Day Corp. starting in 1979.

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Ballast / Displacement * 100

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A measure of the weight of the boat relative to it's length at the waterline. The higher a boat’s D/L ratio, the more easily it will carry a load and the more comfortable its motion will be. The lower a boat's ratio is, the less power it takes to drive the boat to its nominal hull speed or beyond. Read more.

D/L = (D ÷ 2240) ÷ (0.01 x LWL)³

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ODay 20 vs Mariner 2+2 which is faster

• Thread starter Mcewan007
• Start date Jul 18, 2018
• Oday Owner Forums
• Day Sailers

Will Gilmore

Welcome @Mcewan007 , You have chosen wisely already by becoming a member of Sailboatowners, to ask your questions on our forum. I have no doubt, you will make the right decision as to which boat to get because historically, you have demonstrated already that you make good decisions so far. I own a Mariner, but I can't answer your question, I'm sorry. I do, however, have a membership with the Mariner Class Association ( http://www.usmariner.org ). They are an active, enthusiastic and generous group of sailors who absolutely love their little boats. Check them out and search through their forum, I'm not sure non-members can get to it ( https://mariner.clubexpress.com/content.aspx?page_id=2153&club_id=953644 ). I don't actually think you will find a comparison, but you will get a good sense of the Mariner's performance from them. They do a lot of class racing and some of them race outside their class, as well. A question, if you never find the answer to this question, how much does it matter if you enjoy the performance of either boat your sailing? I know nothing at all about the O'Day 20. I have never seen one outside of pictures and the truth is, I know very little about the Mariner, mine is still waiting for me to get a chance to repaint the centerboard and launched her for the first time. The Mariner Class Association Forum has kept me very excited about my choice of boats and this forum has reawakened my intense desire to go sailing. All else being equal, I think the Mariner is a lot prettier. She has a bigger cockpit to accomidate friends and there is a lot of support around her, and the Mariner is still being built by Stuart Marine out of Maine. Here is a link to some videos and promotional materials from the Association site http://www.usmariner.org/content.aspx?page_id=22&club_id=953644&module_id=45453 Oh yeah, on their forum, I remember reading one owner's account of an open class long distance race he won. He finished among 30 footers and afterwards, at the dinner, he overheard another crew talking at a nearby table, "... and everytime I turned around, there was that damned little sailboat." I love that storie. I hope you are happy with your choice, I'm certain you can't make a wrong decision here, but I hope to run into you as a new member of the Mariner's Association soon. - Will (Dragonfly, hull #2632)  

Both O'Days have on Sail Area / Displacement ratios that are quite a bit less than the boats you mentioned. Of course, there are many other factors, but based solely on SA/D, the both Odays will be less sporty than the smaller boats that you have experienced, with the Mariner being slightly better than the 20. See sailboatdata.com. OTH, PHRF ratings from http://www.phrfne.org/page/handicapping/base_handicaps have the 20 being slightly faster than the Mariner. The PHRF handicap on the C&C27 is lower than the two Odays, even though its SA/D is also lower, proving that the numbers are just clues. Now to my personal opinion: Sail the 20 and if you like it, buy it. At this stage of your sailing ownership journey, don't buy any boat that you know needs at least two very expensive accessories and/or that you can't take a test sail. One of the reasons that I bought a Mariner was the long cockpit benches, but I have reached the opinion that the boat is most fun with two people or solo. More than two people and it gets a bit crowded for my taste.  

Thanks for the reply, that’s probably sensible advice. I actually think the guy selling the Mariner may have just bought it earlier this year solely for the trailer and outboard and now he’s trying to get rid of the boat. I need a trailer to launch at the beginning of the year and haul out at the end of the year but other than that it will be on a mooring ball at the dinghy club I belong to all. I’d probably get an electric trolling motor just for grabbing the mooring ball, it won’t be going any long distances. I think my emphasis on speed may have been overstated, what i meant was is the Mariner more lively and fun. As they say with cars, it’s more fun to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow. Thanks again,  

When I was a kid we owned and raced multiple Rhodes 19's, a classic Mariner 2+2 (identical hull to the Rhodes 19), and an O'day 22, for a very short period of time. I have also sailed quite a bit on the original O'day 20. The Mariner is a much better sailing boat than the O'day 20 or the 22. The O'day 20 has slightly more room below but a smaller cockpit.  

I went on kijiji and found the Mariner you are considering; I didn't see the 20. Based on the photos, that Mariner appears to be in better shape than mine was when I bought it. The big difference is that I actually sailed it before I agreed to buy it. It still looks the same to the casual observer. All the improvements that I've made are convenience/reliability/performance-related; I'll let the next owner worry about the cosmetics. Oh, and mine came with a trailer, which is a big factor. It saves me a lot of money to keep it on the hard at the marina vs. in a slip. And it saves me a lot of worry, especially during/after nasty storms.  

According to the poorly maintained Portsmouth rating system, the O'day 20 is a 101.7, and the Mariner is a 102.1. So, based on rating, the O'day 20 is very slightly faster, and probably not really enough to make a difference. I know when it comes to the Laser vs. the Force 5, as for ratings, the Laser is faster, but a well-sailed Force 5 beats Lasers often.  

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another thing that might make a difference in your decision...is, I believe (but am not positive) the centerboard Mariner could be pulled up on a beach or soft shore if needed. this to me would offer all kinds of convenience over a 20.  

Thanks everyone for your replies, the Mariner looks like a great lively boat. The one I saw was in decent condition for its age. I found the 20 was too much in the middle, not quite big enough to weekend on. In the end I didn’t buy either. I picked up a Siren 17 this week. It has a big cockpit (not as big as the Mariner) and small cuddy similar to the Mariner but it’s light enough to tow behind a compact car. the one I bought is in phenomenal condition. Thanks again for all the replies  

Anyone know how a O'Day 19 Weekender would compare with the O'Day 20 and the O'Day Mariner 2+2? Just purchased a 1983 '19 (which has the shorter 23' 8" mast, similar to the O'Day 192 mast), I cannot find any PHRF rating info on it.  

bgstar19 said: Anyone know how a O'Day 19 Weekender would compare with the O'Day 20 and the O'Day Mariner 2+2? Just purchased a 1982 '19 (which has the shorter 23' 8" mast, similar to the O'Day 192 mast), I cannot find any PHRF rating info on it. Click to expand

Hey Brian S, Thanks for your feedback. The displacement figures published for the O'day 19 Weekender are a bit of a misnomer, in that the 2040 lb displacement weight published includes 640 lbs for 4 crew (at 160 lbs each); with an actual non-crewed displacement weight of 1400 lb. and 300 lbs of ballast (its centerboard has a listed weight of 50 lbs, I'm not sure if this 50 lbs is part of the 300 lb ballast figure or not). Also, I have a suspicion that the 95.2 Portsmouth number is based on the earlier 1979-1981 model '19's which have a taller 26' 3" mast and carries the full 179 sq ft of sail you noted above. I believe my 1983 model '19 carries about 164 sq ft of sail.  

Brian S, How do you like your O'day 192? That is the boat I had been looking to buy, with its cabin layout that's more accommodating for overnighting. Unfortunately there were no '192's for sale in my area that a carpenter could afford.  

bgstar19 said: Brian S, How do you like your O'day 192? That is the boat I had been looking to buy, with its cabin layout that's more accommodating for overnighting. Unfortunately there were no '192's for sale in my area that a carpenter could afford. Click to expand

Brian S said: These boats are too short for PHRF; I believe it starts at 20'. Also, bigger boats tend to race PHRF anyway. You'd do better to compare Portsmouth handicap numbers. O'day 19: 95.2 O'day 192: 98.3 O'day 20: 101.7 Mariner 19: 102.1 O'day 19 should be the faster boat of the lot. Just for giggles, I looked up displacement specs, sail area specs, and sail area to displacement specs: O 19: 2040# - 179 ft. sq. - 17.85 O 192: 1400# - 151 ft. sq. - 19.35 O 20: 1600# - 175 ft. sq. - 20.51 M 19: 1430# - 184 ft. sq. - 23.24 Based on numbers, the O'day 19 looks kinda slow with a greater displacement and low SA/D, but fastest Portsmouth. The Mariner is comparatively light (the 2+2 is probably heavier) and has a lot of sail area, bigger SA/D, but still has a slower Portsmouth rating. I can tell you that in lighter wind on a reach, a 192 is faster than a Catalina 22 and a Beneteau First 235. I've caught that First 235 and passed it DDW. Not so much on a beat with more wind, when the bigger boat's LWL and better pointing makes a big difference. Click to expand

BgStar, I wasn't aware of a mast change on the 19, based on Sailboatdata.com. Sunbird might know, and Rudy at D&R Marine probably knows. Perhaps Dwyer Mast also has 2 sets of specifications. As for which (if there were 2 configs) was used to generate Portsmouth numbers, I also have no idea. My understanding of the Portsmouth rating system is that it has been neglected for years, and hasn't been updated, so trying to sort out some detail like that wouldn't be easy. If you were racing it a lot, and began to see a discrepancy in numbers, with the agreement of your club you could probably adjust the rating.  

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1981 O'Day MARINER

Muskegon, Michigan

Make O'Day

Model MARINER

Category Sailboats

Posted Over 1 Month

1981 O'Day MARINER This is the proven hull of the Rhodes 19, designed by the famous naval architech Phil Rhodes. The Mariner version was re-designed by C. Raymond Hunt Associates and has a self bailing cockpit with a mini cabin that sleeps 4 in a pinch and has a sink and a place for a porta pottie. It has a jumbo cockpit. This boat has a stainless steel mast stepping system that most likely no other Mariner has. This makes it easier to step the 25 foot mast. She is a tall fractional rig.  Knot-a-Clue is self righting, with a heavy cast iron ballast centerboard and internal lead ballast fiberglassed in to the bilge, at the builder. You do not baby this boat, you can sail it hard in heavy weather and be perfectly safe. The best part, is you can pick a different place to sail every time you go out and it is beach-able!

O’Day 20, Mariner Sailboat, 19', 1977

Wolcott, Connecticut

Length 19.1

19’, O’Day 20, Mariner sailboat, 1977 with swing keel, Yamaha 4hp motor in good condition. Cushions in great shape as well. If desired, get and use a sail. Sleeps up to 4, great party boat!Trailer included! Normal 0 false false false EN-US X-NONE X-NONE

1976 O'Day Mariner 2+2

Petoskey, Michigan

Model Mariner 2+2

1976 O'Day Mariner 2+2, Sleeps four on individual full-length berths. It has a roomy 81/2' self-bailing cockpit, head, galley sink, ice boxand it's only 19'2" long.Because you can get these accommodations without buying a much larger boat, you save money, retain portability, and have a happy combination of day sailer, racer and overnight cruiser which, despite its redesign, still conforms to class association rules.Mariner is a great boat if you just plain like sailing. The perfect balance between her proven hull design and seven-eights sail plan provide maneuverability, speed and ease of handling. All lines and headsails are handled from the cockpitan advantage for the novice maneuvering in small areas. Adjustable centerboard with 200 lbs. of inside ballast. Both are easily trailed; one person can launch her and step the mast. The boat has a weather helm to avoid capsizing under heavy sale, a plus for newer sailors.All cushions have been redone and are in great shape. Boat comes with a number of life jackets.Boat comes with a trailer in great shape. Permanent Michigan license plate on the trailer. Also comes with the O'Day optional trailering accessories.Also included is a '78 Chrysler longshaft outboard motor on adjustable mount with remote gas tank. This 9 HP motor is in great shape for it's age and is reliable with a good tune up. $4500, 2313300229

19’, O’Day 20, Mariner sailboat, 1977

Make O'Day 20

Model Mariner Sailboat

Length 19.2

19’, O’Day 20, Mariner sailboat, 1977 with swing keel, Yamaha 4hp motor in good condition. Sails and cushions in great shape as well. Sleeps up to 4, great party boat! Includes: 1999 Yamaha 4hp four stroke engine; outboard bracket and gas tank Mainsail and sail bag Roller furling jib Blue sail cover and blue tiller cover Wind indicator for top of mast Bulkhead compass (Ritchie) Red interior cushions Portable head Anchor and rode Rigging tools Manual bilge pump Boat hook USCG safety gear including fire extinguisher, flares and life jackets Trailer

1984 O'Day 34

Fairhaven, Massachusetts

Category Sloop Sailboats

1984 O'Day 34, This 1984 ODay 34 is located in Fairhaven (in water until 10/30/16) or New Bedford, MA (on the hard after 10/30/16) and is available for showing by appointment.BOLERO is a well cared for, two owner ODay 34. She is nicely equipped for cruising and provides the perfect platform for the cruising family or couple. The ODay 34 design concept was aimed at moderate sailing performance and spacious accommodations. The shoal draft keel allows for access to more anchorages while still pointing well and the rudder is large providing for good directional control. Principle Dimensions and Other Information:LOA 34.00LWL 28.75Beam 11.25Draft 5.58Displacement 11,500 poundsBallast 4,600 poundsKeel Type ShoalRudder Type SpadeSA / Disp. 16.51Ballast / Disp. 40.01%Disp. / Length 216.04Designer C. Raymond Hunt & Associates / J. DeknatelBuilder ODay CorporationYears of Production 1980 to 1984Number Built 241Machinery:Universal FWC dieselHorsepower 21Hours 1150 (approximate)Fuel Range 45 hours at 6 knots Tankage:Fuel 30 gallonsWater 50 gallonsHolding 15 gallonsElectrical:12 VDC(2) Group 27M Deep Cycle BatteriesElectronics:Radar Raytheon RX 10 mast mountChart Plotter Raymarine C80Autopilot Navico Power PilotDepth SR MarinerSpeed - AutohelmVHF Magnetic Compass RitchieGalley Equipment:Stove / Oven Hillerange 2 burner with ovenIce box and Refrigerator - 8 cubic feetDual S.S. sinksH/C pressurized water (with Hot Water Heater)Cabinet, shelving and drawer storageHead Equipment:Manual flush headStainless holding tank with manual and deck pumpoutFiberglass molded sink basinH/C pressurized water with pull out shower headVanity with mirror and storageSafety Equipment:(4) Type II PFDs(2) Auto/Manual Inflatable PFDs(1) Throwable device Permanent (battery operated) USCG approved flares (1) Air horn(2) BC dry chemical fire extinguishersTransom mounted swim ladderDouble life lines2 -15kg anchors25 x 3/8 chain50 x nylon three strand rodeSail Handling Equipment:(2) Barlow #16 halyard winches(1) Barlow #16 sheet winch(2) Barlow #25 primary winchesCruising Design roller furlingInboard genoa tracks4:1 boom vang / preventerMid-boom mainsheetSails:Battened Main Sail Doyle (2013)135% genoa Doyle with UV cover (2007)Canvas and Other Equipment:Main sail coverDodger with side curtains (2015)Life line padded covers (cockpit)(2) Cockpit cushions Hatch screen Fenders & dock lines $30000

1969 O'Day Mariner 2+2

Horseshoe Bend, Arkansas

Fair condition, rigging complete with main, genoa, spinnaker. Trailer included, no motor.

1989 Carver Mariner

La Conner, Washington

Private Seller (509) 724-8990 Photos Photo 1 Close Request Information * Name First Name * Email Telephone (optional) Best Time to Contact Anytime Morning Mid-day Evening Question/Comments (optional) Shop Safely: Protect Your Money. By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use. Contact Seller 1989 Carver Mariner, 28' Carver Mariner twin 305hp engines in EXCELLENT condition. Upgrades include: new Raymarine radar system. Never used 20hp with on-deck throttle engine trim and start. Raymarine radio hand-held mounted controls. Surround sound stereo system. All safety gear, tv. Dingy w/motor. Too much to list. Must see! $34500 O.B.O., 509-724-8990 Be sure: Get a boat history report|Finance this boat|Get an insurance quote|

Restoration to a Classic Carver Cabin Cruiser Fresh Water Yacht Almost Complete

Arlington, Texas

Make Carver Boats

Model Mariner 3396

Category Aft Cabin

Email us at [email protected] TOLL FREE: 866-546-6289 LOCAL: 817-543-2400 EBizAutos 1978 Carver Boats Mariner 3396 Internet Special 1978 Carver Mariner 3396 Cabin Cruiser PHOTOS PHOTOS VIDEOS VIDEOS Photo 1 of 82 Request More Info VIN: NEW2009FORDC Stock #: CARVER Condition: Used Clear Title Engine: Dual 351 Windsors Exterior Color: White PHOTO VIEWER PHOTO VIEWER VIEW OTHER AUCTIONS VIEW OTHER AUCTIONS EMAIL A FRIEND EMAIL A FRIEND MORE PHOTOS & DETAILS MORE PHOTOS & DETAILS Additional Photos Vehicle Overview ILS is pleased to offer this almost completely updated "Collectable" 1978 Carver Mariner 3396. We have rebuilt both engines, new headline, all new vinyl on top and inside,new carpet,new granite counter tops,new plumbing fixtures, new lighting and electrical outlets,all of the teak & mohogany wood has been refinished, new custom guages,custom table top, and more updates. Please contact us to discuss details of all the updates. 817.543.2400 John The emphasis on generous cabin space in Carver's 33*ft. "3396 Mariner" has created a very spacious command bridge as well as a topside lounging and entertainment area, the bridge is equipped with a full-instrumented helm, swivel type captain's chair, companion seat, L-shaped aft bridge seat that converts to a double berth, and sliding Plexiglas hatch for access to the salon below, complementing the bridge is a foredeck sun seat. Designed for maximum live-aboard comfort, the 3396 Mariner has a roomy salon with a dinette and sofa which both convert to double beds. The L-shaped galley immediately forward of the salon is equipped with a dual-door dual-voltage refrigerator, electric stove with oven, stainless steel dual basin sink, hot and cold pressure water system, large storage locker and overhead cabinets. Opposite the galley is the head with a fiberglass shower enclosure, vanity with stainless steel sink, plus two access doors from the companionway and master stateroom in the bow. The master stateroom features a double berth with a 4*in. foam mattress, bureau with three drawers and large locker, full-length clothes closet and mirror. Some of the many standard interior features of the 3396 Mariner Include lined drapes, individually fused 12*volt circuits, 110-volt 30*amp dockside wiring with circuit breakers, dual station bilge blower controls, and two automatic bilge pumps. Its fully instrumented propulsion system includes either twin 270 or twin 255 horsepower counter-rotating inboard engines with 2.05:1 reduction gears and direct couple V-drives, mechanical steering, binnacle mount shift and throttle controls, dual batteries with safety selector switches, mufflers, trim tabs, and 14 gallon fuel system. L.O.A. 32"9" Beam 12'0" Weight Approx. 11620 Height Above Water 11'5" Headroom in Cabin 77" Sleeping Capacity 8 Water Capacity 70 Fuel Capacity 202 Power Options Twin Inboard Dual 351 Windsors About International Limo Sales International Limo Sales is a respected livery industry dealer that buys and sells all types and manufacturers of new and pre-owned livery vehicles: Stretch Limousines , Limo Buses, Shuttle Buses, Buses, Funeral Cars, SUVs and Stretch SUVs, Passenger and Luxury Vans, Executive Sedans. We purchase only the finest pre-owned livery vehicles and then go one step further with our "ILS Certification Process". This offers our customers the absolute best pre-owned vehicles in the market and ILS assures the quality of our entire pre-owned inventory by performing extensive reconditioning of each vehicle. Each vehicle will then meet our customer's high standards. 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2017 Harris Grand Mariner SEL 230

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Eagle River, Wisconsin

Make Harris

Model Grand Mariner SEL 230

Category Pontoon Boats

2017 Harris Grand Mariner SEL 230 You really can have it all. With the Grand Mariner SEL 230 I/O pontoon boat, youll enjoy entertaining guests and relaxing in the summer sunshine while also having on hand the specific features and generous performance youll need to provide high-octane water-sports action. The SEL 230s open floor plan offers two spacious bow lounges, amidships lounge opposite the UltraLux high-back reclining helm seat, sun pad and a luxurious rear-facing lounge with flip-top backrest. It also features an open transom for unfettered access to the large swim deck, and an available port bow group replaces the portside bow lounge with two UltraLux seats and a flip-up table. For skiing and boarding, the SEL 230 incorporates a removable ski tow pylon and performance package as standard gear, while a convenient ski locker and lighting package are available add-ons. Whats more, you can choose a stereo upgrade, state-of-the-art electronics, pillow-top furniture and so much more, including exquisite coverings and flooring options such as Faux Teak, Teak Vinyl and Woven Teak in a variety of colors. A day on the water has never been quite like this. Please note: This boat model may or may not be in-stock. A Nationally Advertised Price, if listed, may change without notice or include accessories not fully described herein. Please contact your local, authorized dealer for exact details on model availability and package pricing.

Walker, Minnesota

2016 Harris Grand Mariner SEL 230

Ossipee, New Hampshire

2016 Harris Grand Mariner SEL 230 You really can have it all. With the Grand Mariner SEL 230 I/O pontoon boat, you’ll enjoy entertaining guests and relaxing in the summer sunshine while also having on hand the specific features and generous performance you’ll need to provide high-octane water-sports action. The SEL 230’s open floor plan offers two spacious bow lounges, amidships lounge opposite the UltraLux high-back reclining helm seat, sun pad and a luxurious rear-facing lounge with flip-top backrest. It also features an open transom for unfettered access to the large swim deck, and an available port bow group replaces the portside bow lounge with two UltraLux seats and a flip-up table. For skiing and boarding, the SEL 230 incorporates a removable ski tow pylon and performance package as standard gear, while a convenient ski locker and lighting package are available add-ons. What’s more, you can choose a stereo upgrade, state-of-the-art electronics, pillow-top furniture and so much more, including exquisite coverings and flooring options such as Faux Teak, Teak Vinyl and Woven Teak in a variety of colors. A day on the water has never been quite like this. Please note: This boat model may or may not be in-stock. A Nationally Advertised Price, if listed, may change without notice or include accessories not fully described herein. Please contact your local, authorized dealer for exact details on model availability and package pricing.

Russell Springs, Kentucky

2010 Harris FloteBote Grand Mariner SEL 250

Dadeville, Alabama

Make Harris FloteBote

Model Grand Mariner SEL 250

2010 Harris FloteBote Grand Mariner SEL 250 2010 HARRIS 250 GRAND MARINER SEL 250 I/0 362 HOURS ON MERCRUSIER 350 MAG TRAILER NOT INCLUDED BUT AVAILABLE FOR PURCHASE   Friends and family members of any age will find plenty to rave about aboard this pontoon deck boat. From a roomy swim platform to an aft lounger with flip-flop backrest, the unbeatable interior features include plenty of cup holders, an aft table and ample storage combined with a unique fence design…  AND, power to spare with both outboard and stern drive pontoon versions. Spacious bow seating is perfect for those days when everyone comes to play. The optional jump seat can accommodate an extra person and offers storage space underneath. Specially placed speakers ensure you get the very most out of your Sony Gold stereo system while relaxing on the water.  This is a luxury boat with high performance and room for all your friends, family and gear for a fun day on the water. Pontoon deck boats like this are made for swimming and water sports. With the custom four-step, telescoping ladder for easy access to the water and an extra stereo console, the Grand Mariner’s transom becomes a memory-making hub. Relax on the plush aft lounger or spacious sunlounge. The optional entertainment galley packs in all you need for onboard gatherings with Smart Storage, counter space and available sink. The Grand Mariner’s stylish helm stand is the command center for fun. Pursue any of your favorite on-water activities with confidence knowing you’re backed up by reliable performance. Convenient and intuitive features that define the dash display are standard on our pontoon deck boats. Lighted toggle switches and an optional SmartCraft MercMonitor digital display make everything easier while keeping you in complete control. The Grand Mariner SEL pontoon deck boat offers outstanding stern drive power up to 430 horsepower with easy access to the engine. Mix and match for a dozen fence color combinations. Try the bold full color paneling or spice it up with a sharp two-tone look.  Black Sapphire, Midnight Blue, Royal Garnet, Sandy Pearl and Blue Opal are the five base colors for the Grand Mariner.  Choose an optional accent graphics package to really make a statement out on the water. Choose Black Sapphire, Midnight Blue, Sandy Pearl, Royal Garnet or Platinum Silver. The Grand Mariner comes in six models, the pontoon stern drive favorites 230 SEL and 250 SEL plus outboards 230 and 250 and lounger editions 230 SL and 250 SL.   Trailer not included in sales price but available for purchase If you feel like this could be the right boat for you please call for more information or to schedule a showing. Thanks for your interest! Sale price of: $34,999 TUESDAY-SUNDAY 8-5 Mark 77O-7I5-638O C

1995 Correct Craft Sport Nautique 21 Foot Tournament Ski Boat 611 Hours Trailer

Johnstown, Pennsylvania

Make Correct Craft

Model Sport Nautique

Category Bowrider Boats

THANK YOU FOR VIEWING OUR 1995 CORRECT CRAFT SPORT 21 FT NAUTIQUE TOURNAMENT SKI BOAT WITH 611 HOURS. THIS WAS THE FIRST YEAR CORRECT CRAFT OFFERED THE PRO BOSS GT-40 FUEL INJECTED MOTOR. ALSO HAS 7 ALPINE SPEAKERS INCLUDING AMP AND SUBWOOFER. THIS BOAT HAS ONLY HAD 2 OWNERS SINCE IT WAS SOLD BRAND NEW. RECENT UPGRADES INCLUDE NEW COVER, NEW STEREO HEAD UNIT, NEW BATTERY, NEW THERMOSTAT, NEW IMPELLER. ALSO INCLUDED THE 1995 EAGLE CUSTOM TRAILER WHICH WAS COMPLETELY RESTORED INCLUDING SANDBLASTED AND PAINTED PROFESSIONALLY IN SUMMER OF 2014. WE ALSO INSTALLED NEW CHROME WHEELS & TIRES. BOAT SHOWS IN EXCELLENT CONDITION FOR IT'S AGE AND ONLY HAS MINOR COSMETIC BLEMISHES INCLUDING SLIGHT GEL COAT OXIDATION ON PORT SIDE AND MINOR HULL BOTTOM BLISTERS WHICH ARE ONLY COSMETIC. THE REAR FACING PASSENGER SEAT HAS A TINY CUT AND ENGINE COVER HAS MINOR SCRATCHES. OVERALL A VERY CLEAN AND WELL MAINTAINED NAUTIQUE WITH LOW HOURS. BOAT WAS GARAGE KEPT MOST OF IT'S LIFE. PLEASE CONTACT SCOTT LONG @ (814)659-1908 OR EMAIL TO [email protected] WITH ANY QUESTIONS. SCOTT LONG(814)659-1908 VICE PRESIDENT OF INTERNET OPERATIONS / EBAY SPECIALIST FORD-LINCOLN-NISSANTOYOTA-SCION-BMWCHRYSLER-JEEP-HYUNDAIDODGE-RAM TRUCK-EQUUSFAX (814)269-2346EMAIL [email protected] BUY FROM US?The top 5 reasons why our customer's travel hundreds and even thousands of miles to purchase from our dealership instead of their local dealer: 1. Each of our vehicle's go through a multipoint 160 point inspection, and each vehicle has a unique description which I do personally on every vehicle. 2. Each vehicle has all service performed up to factory specifications before it leaves our lot. 3. Deal directly with a Manager and eliminate the salesperson! NO BACK & FORTH! I specialize in handling ALL Ebay transactions and I personally inspect the vehicle and take all photos & videos. Most of our customers have never purchased a vehicle through Ebay or over the internet and I am dedicated to walk you through the entire process from start to finish and make it a smooth and easy transaction. 4. We are set up to cater to the eBay buyer, and our main focus is selling cars in this market. 5. Each vehicle has a 100% Satisfaction guarantee! Check our 100% perfect feedback on ebay! (Ebay Seller since 2002!!!)FREE AIRPORT PICK-UP: If you decide to fly in and drive your new vehicle home, we offer free airport pick-up from either of our local airports which are the Johnstown Cambria County airport, Latrobe Airport or the Pittsburgh Int'l airport. You can also rent a car one way, take Greyhound or Amtrak. We make arrangements to pick you up for free!NO ADDITIONAL FEES: we waive all vehicle prep fees and dealer processing fees for Ebay members only. This will save you up to $900 over what other dealerships may charge you. The only additional fees will be your state sales tax, documentary, and plate fees for this purchase. You only pay sales in your home state. No additional fees is one of the many reasons we have sold cars in all 50 states.SALES TAX: You will only pay sales tax in your home state. You will only pay sales tax in Pennsylvania if you are registering the vehicle in PA. We collect and submit your state’s tax for you through a titling service. If you are out of state, you will only pay $167.00 total for all PA fees including documentation, 30 day registration and temp tag. No additional dealer or prep fees.HOURS:Monday – 9am – 8pmTuesday – 9am – 8pmWednesday– 9am – 5pmThursday – 9am - 8pm Friday – 9am – 5pmSaturday – 9am – 4pmSunday - CLOSED Please call or text Scott Long at 814-659-1908 or email to [email protected] to schedule an appointment OR check availability today!VISIT US: IF YOU WISH TO COME AND VISIT OUR DEALERSHIP IN PERSON, PLEASE CALL AHEAD to (814)659-1908 TO MAKE SURE THE VEHICLE IS AVAILABLE AND WHICH DEALERSHIP THE VEHICLE IS LOCATED AT AS I WORK OUT OF ALL OF OUR LOCATIONS. Please call to confirm vehicle has not already been sold, vehicle's can sell at any moment and our inventory changes daily. EBAY PRICE POLICY: Our Ebay pricing policy is VALID ONLY WITH SCOTT LONG, Ebay & Internet Manager - this helps eliminate confusion with our normal sales staff and guarantees you the Ebay price.TRADE-INS ACCEPTED: In most cases we accept trade-ins and we can appraise your trade-in before you make the trip to our dealership. Please call Scott Long 814-659-1908 or email to [email protected] for an appraisal. Here is a example of what I need to evaluate your vehicle: Year, Make, Model (see example) 2005 Toyota Camry LE 4 Cylinder VIN # (need full 17 digit vin#) Mileage (estimated mileage upon arrival) Condition example: (brand new tires 3,000 miles ago, paint has minor cosmetic flaws and a small ding on driver door, interior was a non-smoker) Color example:(silver) Options example:(fabric interior, moonroof, remote starter, power seat) History example:(1-owner, clean carfax, no accidents, just had new brakes & rotors installed last month) DIGITAL PHOTOS ARE A PLUS! (10 photos are greatly appreciated but not required for a trade estimate)Payoff amount, monthly payment, and bank example:($8,500, $280 a month, First National bank)METHOD OF PAYMENT: FINANCE OR BANK WIRE TRANSFER ABOUT USWE ARE A FAMILY OWNED AUTO GROUP IN WESTERN PENNSYLVANIA ESTABLISHED IN 1984 IN CAMBRIA, SOMERSET, AND WESTMORELAND COUNTY. WE HAVE 7 LOCATIONS AND SELL 12 DIFFERENT MAKES BRAND NEW INCLUDING FORD, LINCOLN, NISSAN, TOYOTA, SCION, BMW, CHRYSLER, JEEP, HYUNDAI, DODGE, RAM TRUCK, EQUUS AND MANY MORE PRE-OWNED MAKES AND MODELS. THIS VEHICLE IS ALSO FOR SALE LOCALLY ON OUR LOT AND WE RESERVE THE RIGHT TO END THE EBAY LISTING AT ANYTIME, MOST EBAY LISTINGS END BEFORE THE LISTING COMES TO AN END WITH A PHONE CALL! PLEASE KEEP IN MIND, THIS IS NOT A BIDDING AUCTION, THE ‘BUY IT NOW’ PRICE IS OUR LOWEST RESERVE AND CAN SELL AT ANY MOMENT SO PLEASE DO NOT WAIT UNTIL THE END! WE ALSO OFFER EXTENDED WARRANTIES, FINANCING, SHIPPING & DELIVERY AND OTHER FINANCIAL PRODUCTS. IF YOU WOULD LIKE A PRICE QUOTE ON ANY OF THE ABOVE, SIMPLY CALL MY DIRECT LINE @ 814-659-1908 (LEAVE A VOICEMAIL IF YOU DO NOT REACH ME, I NORMALLY RETURN PHONE CALLS WITHIN 15 MINUTES IF I CAN NOT BE REACHED IMMEDIATELY). WE KNOW HOW SCARY IT CAN BE TO BUY A CAR ON-LINE, SO BUY WITH CONFIDENCE AND READ OUR PREVIOUS FEEDBACK FROM OUR EBAY CUSTOMERS; I PERSONALLY HAVE 16 YEARS EXPERIENCE SELLING VEHICLE'S ON-LINE ALL OVER THE WORLD AND HAVE COMPLETED OVER 4,000 ON-LINE VEHICLE TRANSACTIONS MYSELF. WE HAVE A PERFECT 100% SATISFACTION RATING! PLEASE FEEL FREE TO CALL ME WITH ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE ENTIRE EBAY PROCESS OR IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ASK ME ANY PARTICULAR QUESTIONS ABOUT THE VEHICLE AS I PERSONALLY WALK AROUND THE VEHICLE WHILE SPEAKING WITH YOU. I AM HERE TO MAKE THIS TRANSACTION AS EASY AS POSSIBLE FOR YOU. MY GOAL IS TO MAKE THIS A HASSLE-FREE TRANSACTION AND THE BEST CAR BUYING EXPERIENCE POSSIBLE. I SPECIALIZE IN EBAY SALES AND WILL BE HAPPY TO WALK YOU THROUGH THE ENTIRE PROCESS. BELOW IS MY PERSONAL EMAIL ADDRESS, CELL PHONE NUMBER & FAX NUMBER, ONCE YOU CLICK THE ‘BUY IT NOW’ I WILL NEED A CURRENT INSURANCE ID CARD AS WELL AS A COPY OF YOUR DRIVER’S LICENSE FRONT & BACK TO COMPLETE PAPERWORK. THIS CAN BE SCANNED AND EMAILED, OR YOU CAN TEXT PHOTOS OF THESE DOCUMENTS WITH A SMART PHONE TO 814-659-1908. A $500 CREDIT CARD DEPOSIT IS REQUIRED TO SECURE THE VEHICLE AND ONCE DEPOSIT IS ACCEPTED THE VEHICLE WILL BE TAKEN OFF THE LOT AND RESERVED UNDER YOUR NAME. RECENT CUSTOMER TESTIMONIALS:I found the car I was looking for on their internet website. I had a car to trade. the entire deal was done via email. I got a fair price for my trade and a fair price on the vehicle I was purchasing. I worked with Scott Long and he was very professional and accommodating. I travelled a little over 2,000 to pick up my new car. once at the dealership the transaction was completed in less than 1 hour. I would buy from this dealer again!Bob from El Paso, TexasI had been driving my first Prius for more than 8 years, and recently started looking for a new one. I quickly found a new 2014 Prius III on eBay at a great price. The only problem was, it was sitting in western Pennsylvania...about 5 hours from my home in northern NJ. I called Scott Long and asked him about the car, and about my 2005 Prius as a trade-in. He confirmed everything about the car listed on eBay, and, after receiving photos of my trade-in, offered me a very reasonable price for my old car. I told him I'd think about it. The next day, Scott sent me an email, offering me an extra $500 for my trade-in. The deal was so good, that I decided to drive 300 miles to PA in my old Prius, and 300 miles back home in my beautiful new one! It was a long drive (especially, the first half -- I recommend stopping at the Panera's in Bloomsburg, PA, about two hours east of Johnstown, on the way home!), but ended up being one of the smartest things I ever did. The transaction was done quickly, and everything promised me on the phone and Internet was delivered. Scott was extremely professional, which even made his Pittsburgh Pirates/Steelers/Penguins memorabilia on the bookcase behind him seem bearable (the Rangers victory over the Pens the day before also helped!). I recommend that you check out your local Toyota dealership, get their best deal, and then call Scott to complete your new car purchase!When I decided I wanted to get back into a truck after recently purchasing a car, I knew my options were limited both to the cost of the truck as well as the value of my trade in. Scott went ahead and provided bottom line pricing on a truck that met my exact desires and was able to arrange a fair trade in value for my previous vehicle. Living over 300 miles away from the dealership, needless to say I was a bit apprehensive at both the idea of buying a car out of state as well as making arrangements to actually take the vehicle home. Scott was able to assuage my fears and facilitate the entire process. One week after I found the truck I wanted I was driving it home. No high pressure F&I to deal with, asked if I was interested in any extended warranties and such, I politely declined and that was it. I really hope local dealers understand that is an absolutely phenomenal way to do business. Scott (sales) and Zack (F&I) were both great and I am very happy with my decision to purchase a vehicle from Scott. Bernard in New Jersey. Scott made every effort to answer any question in a timely fashion. He was great from the initial meeting through the delivery process. Great buying experience.Found the vehicle online and asked for more information about it. Scott Long responded immediately! He was very friendly and knowledgeable. We were able to set everything up through emails during the week and I got my car that Saturday. The price was great! Went over every detail of the car and answered any question I had. I love my new (used) car!I recently purchased a new 2014 Mustang GT premium. i knew going in the basic kind of car i wanted. they didn't have what i wanted at the dealership so they searched all nearby dealers and couldn't find what i was looking. we ended up placing a custom order threw ford to get the exact car i wanted. he quoted me a price, after incentives including taxes, and all applicable fees. i took my vehicle specs and the price he gave me and contacted local dealers to see if they could beat Laurel Fords offer, and they either offered a higher amount or didn't answer back at all. it was the best deal within 75 miles of where i lived. i decided to place the order threw Laurel Ford and it took about 9 weeks to get built and delivered. they kept me updated on my vehicle status with weekly emails. they did not pressure me into buying any additional upgrades or packages. when i the vehicle finally came i was relieved to find it was exactly what i wanted but also the price i paid was the exact price he quoted me 9 weeks prior. they are very transparent with their offers, so if they say this is what you will pay, you can expect to pay that and not a penny more. The staff were friendly and knowledgeable of the car and helped me get acquainted with all its gadgets. i also want to mention i traded in my old car towards this purchase. they gave me the highest amount Kelly Blue book said my car was worth. it was overall a pleasant experience. i will buy from them for life and recommend them to anyone interested in a new car.Though Im not the smartest when it comes to keeping vehicles (have owned a new one every two years) I do have a lot of experience with the car buying process and buying from Laurel Toyota was the smoothest and best yet. I didn't have to negotiate or walk away, or be lied to (some other local dealers) about deal terms. Scott was honest took great care of me and even pulled some strings to get me in the truck I wanted at a fair price. I can't thank Scott enough and even Zach the finance manager was so easy to work with no high pressure add on's, etc. I drove 4 hours to get this truck and I would do it again. Thank you so much again guys for the great service! Before you waste your time at other stealers visit them first, honest, straightforward, easy and genuine. Zachary from New JerseyPurchased New Sienna based on the ebay deal, Scott Long was the Sales rep for the Dealership. My transaction was smooth, friendly and in timely manner. The car was as described, and paper work only took minutes. Scott coordinated the time perfectly so I would have pleasant experience. He even gave course on the options/gadgets on the car. Since I had limited time, he even offered to help me at later time if I had any questions related to the car options. I would shop again at Laurel Toyota, Thanks Scott.Recently purchased a 2009 Subaru from Laurel Toyota, represented by Scott Long on eBay. The whole transaction was fast, smooth and friendly. The vehicle was exactly as represented in the detailed description and posted video, and the roof racks were installed as requested. They brought the vehicle to the airport and the transaction was done and the car on its way home to Colorado in less than half an hour. I had no trouble reaching Scott by both phone and email to get answers to some logistical questions, and he's easy and pleasant to deal with. Subarus are premium priced in Colorado; this car was priced better at a significantly lower milage, with warranty coverage, and in much better condition than anything we found locally. Worth the cross country drive, and when next I need a vehicle, I'll contact Scott first.Overexcited!! Costumer. Scott is the man!!!! Drove home six hours with the used car I bought ,had a real pleasurable ride. The car performed excellent, the interior was fresh like new. The entire transaction was very smooth from start to finish.I spent a lot of time looking for a particular 2014 Toyota Tundra Crew Max across 5 local dealers and 5 out of state dealer's inventory. I ended my search when I met Scott Long from Laurel Toyota in PA. Not only did Scott have exactly what I was looking for but he had the lowest price. I flew to PA where Scott's driver picked me up at the airport and drove me 2 hours to the Laurel Toyota dealership. The truck we had agreed on was sitting out front, freshly washed, a full tank of gas, with all the features I wanted, just like the pictures Scott sent to me. It was a very smooth transaction and I was out the door in about 45 minutes. If you are in the market for a great car buying experience that meets your expectations, I highly recommend buying from Scott Long at Laurel Toyota. You can reach Scott on twitter @ScottLongCars.Doug from Georgia"900 miles round trip was worth trip"purchased new 2015 ford f-250,and couldn't have been happier with the price or staff at laurel ford.scott long was very helpful from the first time I contacted him until I picked up my vehicle,i will do business with him in the future.Overall, an excellent experience working with this dealership. I found the truck advertised on several online car/truck sites. After determining that the vehicle was close to what I was looking for I started a dialog with Scott Long. Scott was always prompt and courteous. Scott was more than willing to provide as much information as I asked for. Scott's information was always accurate. I feel that when dealerships are selling their vehicles online to a broad audience and the buyer isn't able to personally inspect the vehicle during the typical purchasing process, the seller agent, Scott in this case, has to go out of his way to provide information, data and pictures to support the vehicle that they are representing. Scott Long did so. I am not going to commit to a long drive/flight to purchase a vehicle and then suddenly learn something I didn't expect to see about the vehicle. I tried to communicate this fact upfront. In the end, the truck was more than what I expected and I was delighted with my purchase. Scott from Binghamton, NYAfter finding the exact F150 I'd been searching for online, I contacted Scott Long for more info on the truck. The dealership was 4 hours away and I was a little apprehensive about buying the truck sight unseen. Scott knowlegeably answered all my questions and provided all the info I needed to allay my fears about buying online. The truck was exactly as he described and exceeded my expectations. The whole transaction was smooth and efficient. Everything was taken care of when I arrived at the dealership and I was on the road home in my new to me truck in no time at all. I would recommend this dealership to anyone and will definitely check with them next time I'm searching for another vehicle. Buy with confidence from Scott Long and Laurel Ford.Dave from VirginiaWe took delivery yesterday morning, October 30th. The Acura MDX is all we hoped it would be. This thing has more whistles & and bells than I imaged. Special thank you to Scott Long for making this an enjoyable experience. Our deal was easy (a non event ) and Scotts knowledge and his professionalism made our purchase the easiest vehicle buying experience I can remember!! It is too bad that Laurel Nissan is so far from Amarillo, TX. I would enjoy having coffee with Scott and seeing the dealerships he represents. He is a great ambassador for Laurel Nissan and Car Sales in general. Down to earth, with integrity not found in all dealerships. If we are in the market for another vehicle, I would not hesitate to contact Scott first.. Thank you Scott & Laurel Nissan for a great car purchase experience .. Donald R. Dougherty Amarillo, TEXAS Recently purchased a 2010 Mercury Mariner from Laurel Ford in Windber, PA. Scott Long assisted us in the purchase. Mr. Long treated us as though we were purchasing a brand new car. He explained every detail of the vehicle with confidence and pride. Mr. Long was extremely professional in every regard, but very personable at the same time. Purchasing "used" cars in the past have never been a positive experience as dealers/salesman seemed more bothered to be assisting on a used vehicle vs a new one. Scott made us feel very important and it was truly a great experience. I will highly recommend Laurel Ford and Scott Long to friends and relatives.I contacted Scott in reference to a vehicle they had listed on the internet. I was able to negotiate the entire purchase, finance, and extended warranty of this vehicle via e-mail in less than 24 hours. The next day I flew to Pittsburgh, Scott had their delivery personnel pick me up at the airport, take me to the local McDonald's to look over the truck, complete the paperwork, and I was on my way home (North Carolina)! This was the best vehicle buying experience I have had! Price was great and the ease of the transaction was priceless! Thank you Scott!This is the second vehicle I bought from Scott and it wont be my last, Scott and laurel dealership there the greatest !!! Fast service when i told Scott what I was looking for he had it the next dayDrove 4+ hours from Buffalo, NY for the truck of my dreams, and this dealership was worth every mile. Excellent service, communication, and attention to detail. Would reccomend them any day!!Friendly, no pressure sales, quick paperwork and minimum fees. Good old-fashioned service and support to customers. Hard to find such service and support todayFirst time ever buying a truck on the computer, did not even see it in person, just pictures, so was very hesitant. The salesman, Scott Long, could not have been nicer nor more honest, made a deal onthe phone, including my trade in, that was very fair. When I got to the dealership to get my truck after a 4 hour drive, everything about the truck and deal was EXACTELY as we had spoken about! No add ons, no BS, nothing additional! Scott did a great job and the actual sale took only a few minutes as they had everything ready when I got there. This dealer was definately worth the drive and when I buy another I will certianly call them with no hesitations! I would also recomend them to anyone!Laurel Ford/Lincoln and representative Scott Long provided exceptional service, follow up and warranty integrity. Without question the best I've ever experienced in 40years!I am from Atlanta and worked with Scott Long to purchase a new 2014 Toyota Tundra. Even though I had to drive 12 hours to get to Johnstown, PA to pick up the truck working with Scott was very easy. We conducted all the negations and details including my trade via email. The entire process could not have been easier and I am very pleased with the purchase process and my new truck!I was nervous about purchasing a car on-line, but I could not have had a better experience. The car actually turned out to be better than advertised and the service I received was incredible. Scott was patient with all of my questions and made me feel very comfortable before I purchased a one-way plane ticket to fly to Pittsburgh and pick up the car. He even arranged to have the car delivered to me at the airport so I did not have to drive the two hours to the dealership. The guys that met me with the car were extremely friendly and just added that much more to the adventure. When I had some issues with registering the title when I got home, the dealership immeditely got me the additional information I needed and even stated (without me asking) that they would pay any late fees if it caused issues. Scott had assured me they would stand behind all of their sales and he was absolutely true to his word. I was extremely pleased with how everything turned out and would not hesitate to deal with Scott again. Julie K.I had been looking for a new Toyota Highlander for 6 months prior to purchasing and this would be my first Toyota purchase. Then I found this Toyota Highlander on-line at Laurel Toyota and I was connected to Scott Long. Right from the get-go he kindly answered all of my questions about the vehicle and patiently worked with me over two days as we worked out the details about my trade-in and price over the phone and email. With most of the details worked out over the phone and email,I planned on making the 100 mile trek too see if we could finalize the deal on a Saturday. I, however, could not make it for personal reasons. He kindly held the vehicle for me until Monday no questions asked. So on Monday, I made the trek still hesitant that something was going to be wrong with the vehicle due to the excellent price! Once I arrived, Scott Long and I took a test drive, reviewed the features of the vehicle, and I inspected the vehicle. The vehicle was in excellent condition, fully detailed, and I had not been misled!! If you have ever traveled to pick-up a vehicle you realize this is not always the case!! I could not be more satisfied. As the paperwork was completed Scott Long took the time to make sure I felt comfortable and relaxed. Despite having to travel over a 100 miles, I will go Laurel Toyota for my next purchase. It was awesome to not be misled, especially when you are traveling to check out a vehicle and to be trusted by having the vehicle held for you within reason so that it can be checked out on my schedule! Thanks Scott!! H. G. HartDear Scott, I have purchased many vehicles over the years at countless dealerships. But when I saw online a new 2012 Prius plug-in hybrid at Laurel Toyota in Johnstown, PA, I wanted it. I called and spoke to Scott Long and he told me all about the vehicle and I told him about my trade-ins. He worked up the numbers and there were no surprises when I drove up from Florida to make the purchase. Everything went so smoothly. It was the easiest least stressful car purchase I had made ever! All the paperwork was ready for me to sign and drive home in my new car. Drove 1100 miles and very comfortable. Thank you Laurel Toyota, and thank you Scott Long for being so professional and up front with me. You have really earned my business and I will come back. The Toyota Prius is one nice car and getting 86 MPG on Highway, and around town where I live, FREE NO GAS!!!! What a nice car. America you need to go to Laurel Toyota and try out the Prius Plug In. You will not be sorry. Sincerely, Leon & William Hollida Lakeland, FloridaThis is a excellent dealership to consider a new vehicle with. I found a new tundra that I liked via internet and did my entire deal through email. I emailed pictured of my vehicle and was given a trade value that day. I drove 4 hours from NY to pickup a truck that I dont feel any local dealer could of helped me on in price! My hats of to the team at Laurel Toyota and anybody that is looking to purchase from them feel confident as you will be treated the way you should when purchasing a new vehicle. J. NicholsI contacted Scott in reference to a vehicle they had listed on the internet. I was able to negotiate the entire purchase, finance, and extended warranty of this vehicle via e-mail in less than 24 hours. The next day I flew to Pittsburgh, Scott had their delivery personnel pick me up at the airport, take me to the local McDonald's to look over the truck, complete the paperwork, and I was on my way home (North Carolina)! This was the best vehicle buying experience I have had! Price was great and the ease of the transaction was priceless! Thank you Scott! Brenda C. Charlotte, North CarolinaDrove 4+ hours from Buffalo, NY for the truck of my dreams, and this dealership was worth every mile. Excellent service, communication, and attention to detail. Would reccomend them any day!! Dan H. Buffalo, New YorkFirst time ever buying a truck on the computer, did not even see it in person, just pictures, so was very hesitant. The salesman, Scott Long, could not have been nicer nor more honest, made a deal onthe phone, including my trade in, that was very fair. When I got to the dealership to get my truck after a 4 hour drive, everything about the truck and deal was EXACTELY as we had spoken about! No add ons, no BS, nothing additional! Scott did a great job and the actual sale took only a few minutes as they had everything ready when I got there. This dealer was definately worth the drive and when I buy another I will certianly call them with no hesitations! I would also recomend them to anyone!This was the 3rd vehicle I purchased from Laurel Ford Lincoln. Everyone was great from start to finish. Scott Long listened to what I wanted in my new car and was very easy to deal with. Ryan had all paperwork ready when I arrived and was less than 15 minutes! I highly recommend Laurel Auto Group to anyone looking for a great deal and wonderful people to work with. I will be back again!! 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O’Day 22

A nice cockpit, a touch of privacy and good looks, but performance is not a strong suit here..

O’Day Boats was around a long time by fiberglass boatbuilding standards—about 30 years. Originally O’Day was a leader in small boats typified by the Fox-designed Day Sailer.

By the early ’70s O’Day had moved into the trailerable cruising boat market. In the meantime the firm was acquired by Bangor Punta along with such other major boat builders as Cal and Ranger Yachts. In later years, with the decline in volume sales of small boats, O’Day had problems. To help alleviate these, O’Day produced larger and larger boats, first a 30, then a 32, and more recently a 34 and a 37.

All the cruising size boats in the O’Day line were designed by C. Raymond Hunt Associates in one of the most enduring designer-builder relationships in the industry (rivaled, in fact, only by Bill Lapworth’s tenure as Cal’s house designer and Bruce King’s with Ericson Yachts). The result of the relationship is a family resemblance in the O’Day line that is more than superficial. What proves popular in one boat is apt to be adopted in subsequent kin. Therefore, any study of the O’Day offerings over the years reflects a process of evolution.

When it was introduced, the O’Day 22 was touted as a competitive contender on the race course, a contrasting companion to the rather hazy 23-footer which it would soon phase out. The 22 had a masthead rig, a stylish rake to the transom, shallow (23″) draft with a short stub keel and no centerboard, light weight (advertised 1,800 lbs) for trailering, and a price under $3,000.

Later, the 22 acquired a fractional rig, a centerboard, 300 advertised pounds and a price tag almost $7,000 higher.

Construction

O’Day once set a standard for small boat construction and styling. That was before on and off labor problems in its plant, management changes under Bangor Punta, the decline in sales of boats in its size range, and increasingly fierce competition for buyers who became more cost than quality conscious. The later O’Day 22s were, frankly, a mixed bag of quality and shabbiness.

The spars, rigging, and hardware are as high quality as we have seen in comparable boats. Our only reservation is with the stamped stainless steel hinged mast step that we know from personal experience requires a steady hand and boat when raising or lowering a mast.

We also think that a mainsheet which terminates in a cam action cleat 16″ up the single backstay may be economical and simple but it is neither efficient nor handy, again a reflection of scrimping to keep price low.

The quality of O’Day fiberglass laminates was historically high but there have been reader reports of gelcoat voids and there is consistent evidence of print through (pattern of laminate in gelcoat). Exterior styling and proportions are superb, an opinion iterated by owners who have returned the PS Boat Owners’ Questionnaires. The O’Day 22, despite her age, is still not outdated.

On a boat of this size and price, a minimum of exterior trim is understandable. What is less understandable is the poor quality of the interior finish and decor. Belowdecks the O’Day 22 epitomizes the pejorative label Clorox bottle , used to describe fiberglass boats. Sloppily fitted bits of teak trim are matched against teak-printed Formica, at best a tacky combination. Cabinetry, such as there is, is flimsy, and in general the whole impression is of lackluster attention to details.

Performance

Without a centerboard the O’Day 22 simply did not have the performance to go with her racy image. Even with the centerboard she is hardly a ball of fire under sail. She does not point well; tacking through 100 degrees is not uncommon and she is tender, with a disconcerting desire to round up when a puff hits. In light air, with her 3/4 fore triangle and working jib she is under-canvassed and sluggish. In such conditions a genoa with substantial overlap is essential.

Since changing jibs is at best a dicey exercise on a 22 footer, the first step in reducing sail is to reef the mainsail. Jiffy reefing is standard and owners of the O’Day should have a system in good working order and know how to use it. Owners of the boat in waters where squalls are a threat may also want to consider roller furling for the larger jib, trading off the loss of performance and added cost for such a rig for the convenience and, in the case of this boat, the safety.

The O’Day is most hurt in light air downwind and most owners will want either an 8′-or-so whisker pole for winging the jib, or a spinnaker. It is a fun boat on which to learn spinnaker handling. With her fractional rig the spinnaker is relatively small and yet the boat is big enough to provide a foredeck platform for setting the sail.

The trouble is that the O’Day 22 scrimps on the hardware needed for ease of handling with or without a spinnaker. The two #10 Barient sheet winches are, in our opinion, inadequate for anything larger than a working jib and we suggest replacing them with optional #16s. Similarly, the working jib sheets lead to fixed blocks whereas lengths of track with adjustable blocks (fitted to some boats as an option) are far better for optimizing sail trim.

The O’Day did not come with halyard winches as standard. It is a large boat for setting and reefing sails with hand tension alone. Most owners will want at least one small winch (#10) on the cabin roof, with the jib and main halyards led aft through jam cleats or stoppers to the winch.

The fairing of the O’Day 22 underwater is better than average, helped by the fact that the lead ballast is encapsulated in the fiberglass hull molding. The centerboard will, however, be difficult to maintain.

Like many other boats of her size on the market, the O’Day 22 is basically a daysailer with incidental overnight accommodations, notwithstanding that her builder (or its ad agency) made much of its questionable comfort, privacy, and space.

The cockpit of the O’Day is almost perfect: a spacious 6-1/2′ long, the seats are spaced to allow bracing of feet on the one opposite, and the coaming provides a feeling of security and serves as a comfortable arm rest. It is also self-bailing although the low sill at the companionway means that the lower hatch board must be in place to prevent water going below in the event of a knockdown.

Seat locker space is excellent for a boat of this size with quarterberth below and we like the separate sealed well for the outboard remote gas tank (but not the fact that the hose can be pinched in use).

O’Day literature boasts berths for two couples in “absolute privacy.” Privacy in a 22 footer has to be one of the more relative features. A sliding door encloses the forward cabin and another, the head.

The layout of the O’Day 22 is a noteworthy example of the tradeoff between an enclosed head and berth space. It does indeed have a head area that can be enclosed, a rare feature indeed on a boat of this size. With a conventional marine toilet and throughhull discharge where permitted, this would be a most serviceable facility.

The tradeoff is a pair of terrible vee berths forward. Coming to a point at the forward end, there is simply not enough room for two adults on even the most intimate terms. They are thus suitable only for a pair of small children who do not suffer from sibling rivalry.

By contrast the two settee berths in the main cabin are a bit narrow but a fit place for two adults to sleep. In contrast to the dinette layout of other boats, we think the more traditional layout of the O’Day would be the choice for most owners, especially those cruising with children. However, the settees are not comfortable to sit on, lacking as they do backrests.

The initial version of the O’Day had the then fashionable dinette arrangement but this was quickly replaced by a pair of opposing settees. We doubt if many owners would bother setting up the portable cabin table between the berths, as it prevents the fore and aft passage through the cabin.

The galley with its small sink and space for a twoburner stove is rudimentary but adequate for a boat of this size, Inadequate is the bin/hanging locker opposite the head. Its usefulness escapes us. Enclosed, it could have been better used space. But then the O’Day 22 desperately needs stowage space.

Conclusions

At a minimum trailering weight of 2,200 lbs. (more realistically 2,500 plus the trailer), the O’Day 22 is above the maximum for trailering without a heavy car and special gear.

If she isn’t going to be trailered and launched off a ramp, the 2′ minimum draft is an unwarranted sacrifice of performance and stability. We would look for a fin keel boat unless shoal draft is the highest priority.

On the other hand, with some additional sails and hardware the O’Day 22 should appeal to the sailor who wants a minimum size (and therefore price) boat primarily for daysailing and occasional weekend cruising (maximum one couple plus two young children).

Clearly the O’Day 22 is a minimum boat built tightly to a price. She is attractively styled. As she is apt to be a first boat, resale is important. O’Day boats have enjoyed good value on the used boat market. For about $6,000 for a ten-year-old model, you get a sleek looking small boat with a good cockpit, a modicum of privacy and two good berths. You also get a schlocky decor and a slow boat.

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